I don't mean to make another "oh the good old days"

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There is definitely an influx of spambots. Doesn't seem unmanageable yet, though I'm not the one doing the cleanup. :upsd
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http://www.squaregamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1906
The year two thousand and fucking seven says hi about that. At this point, I'd say there is only yourselves (ourselves?) to blame.
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Well, we dealt with this problem for years by closed registration. Damien only opened it up yesterday for SG day. Maybe it should be closed again.
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Yeah, I read that.

It's not like SG would've gained new members with open registration - at least the chances are abysmal - but jesus H christ. Why the fuck would you do that when you could just... I dunno, FIX the fucking problem?
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It seems to me that the spambots mostly make their own threads, rather than replying to the latest post. So I don't see how your first two solutions would help. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding and you're saying create an isolated sub-forum. I guess it could work, but it sounds like it might be complicated.

The other stuff would maybe work, but I don't know if anyone other than man of txt has the ability to implement it.
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That post is over eight years old. I can't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure that the current bots work differently.

#1 is thus obviously outdated, but fuck, the rest would still work. There's also a thousand other ways to do that shit.

YOU HAD EIGHT YEARS TO LEARN IT
HOW HARD CAN IT BE
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Why would I spend eight years worrying about something that hasn't been an issue for the last 6? Plus, I have a real job, honestly.
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Except Man of text is the only one with admin access, and he doesn't post on SG?
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Holy Shit? ZQn? We actually got a legitimate member registering.
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@_@ not possible
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I seriously doubt a spambot would just happen to use that same name. Presumably, if he registered, he plans on posting. So we'll see.
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Slashley wrote:That post is over eight years old. I can't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure that the current bots work differently.

#1 is thus obviously outdated, but fuck, the rest would still work. There's also a thousand other ways to do that shit.

YOU HAD EIGHT YEARS TO LEARN IT
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I'm not the one in control of this forum. The person that is found out that it'd take starting from scratch and had better things to do so simply disallowed all usernames.
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Lord Golbez wrote:I put 1 to 3 odds on Undine showing up. She's posted this year once, but I'm still not so confident she'll make SG day.

I'd place 1 to 100 odds on Yuka making an appearance. She hasn't posted once in several years.

I'd guess that maybe around 10 to a dozen people will post. A more optimistic would be 15-20. If it goes over 20, I would be pleasantly surprised but almost as shocked as if yuka appears.... almost.
1 to 33 odds on 20 or fewer.
Well, I was wrong about at least one thing. There were definitely more than 20 posters who showed up today. Also, Undine! :D
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Yes, those good old days. :E
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Hi Kage, did you vote today? :ruroken
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This thread is going to keep resurfacing. It's the slower version of the Last Person To Post thread
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I also call this thread the "Did you post on SG Day thread?" because it's a good place for SG Day shaming the occasional rare visitor.
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Ah yes, SG Day... the good old days.
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I wonder about ten years from now when this is the good old days. Except it will probably either be much the same as now, or SG won't be around to reminisce on, so I guess the good old days will still be like 20+ years ago then...
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Kage wrote:Yes, those good old days. :E
HOLY SHIT, it's KAGE!

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Man, I was just thinking about this story we wrote a few days ago. I thought, "I bet I'm remembering it being a lot better than it actually was."
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That's the way the human brain works, isn't it :?
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The shitty old days
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The cat-toast bombs?
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This indeed was the best forum ever!
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Still would be if people carried on posting instead of all having a life :?
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I'm pretty sure this is my most frequented online community.
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smeared ink wrote:I'm pretty sure this is my most frequented online community.
there's going to be a point in time where this is the most frequented forum in the world. others will die but SG will prevail
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One day when I win the lotto, I will spend unlimited funds to make Square Gamer the biggest website in the world!! *evil laugh*
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At least people dig this thread up now, rather than make another identical one :p
I remember having big plans for SG in 2005 (though I was mostly unemployed). When I started doing prize draws for games and barely anybody entered, that, I think was the tipping point when I realised people weren't coming to SG for anything at all other than forum posting.
Saying that, I may do another Jaffa Cakes art competition at some point :p
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People do things on the Internet other than forum posting?

Facebook, Twitter, Reddit...it's all just modified forums.
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Some might say worse versions of forums. Some being mostly me, I guess. But I remember what forums were like back in the day and twitter, facebook, and such shit simply don't compare.
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Fora > fb/Twitter/etc.
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Lord Golbez wrote:I wonder about ten years from now when this is the good old days. Except it will probably either be much the same as now, or SG won't be around to reminisce on, so I guess the good old days will still be like 20+ years ago then...
You know, whenever I see somebody wear kneepads... like, rollerskaters or stuff...

I think of you.

This was totally related, as you can see :ruroken
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Slashley wrote:
Lord Golbez wrote:I wonder about ten years from now when this is the good old days. Except it will probably either be much the same as now, or SG won't be around to reminisce on, so I guess the good old days will still be like 20+ years ago then...
You know, whenever I see somebody wear kneepads... like, rollerskaters or stuff...

I think of you.

This was totally related, as you can see :ruroken
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:l :l :l
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Whenever I think this thread may sink away forever, somebody dredges it back up :l
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Kind of hard for a thread to disappear when we only really have a few active threads.
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Yeah, that just makes it extra painful watching something slowly sink over the course of a few months.
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You could probably give the site a shot in the arm with a redesign and influx of content around the same time as a major Square release. So you've got a window of opportunity about once every 12 years.
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I forgot this thread was originally about that cat-toast bombs story. Anybody actually have that garbage saved somewhere? I don't see it on archive.org or those weird Geocities archives like oocities.
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Cid wrote:You could probably give the site a shot in the arm with a redesign and influx of content around the same time as a major Square release. So you've got a window of opportunity about once every 12 years.
As nice as the idea of an all new, rejuvenated SG sounds, I really don't see any way of making it possible.
Even if the site were started from scratch (not even considering the hours and effort that would need to be put in to getting this going) with written content and staff, I don't see the place generating any more residual buzz than your regular SG Day form event. Fan sites and forums just don't work the same way as they did in the late 90's and early 00's. People want to get their news from blogs and social media, not be part of a community. We tried this a few years back with Hype Up. There was a lot of buzz at the start, but it dropped off very quickly, despite almost daily news updates (including features and podcasts etc). I believe SG has a far better purpose and value simply as it is, an archive that goes back to the archaic age of internet communication. An archive that you can still post in, if for any reason you happen to want to :tea
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I was thinking about that the other day. I checked in on a couple other massive forums I used to frequent and it's the same story everywhere, a ghost town. It's actually kind of irritating how back in the day it was more or less uncool to be on the internet a lot, now everyone is on it all the time flooding it with selfies and "when you ______" memes and the things I used to love aren't around anymore. Ugh.
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Damien wrote:
Cid wrote:You could probably give the site a shot in the arm with a redesign and influx of content around the same time as a major Square release. So you've got a window of opportunity about once every 12 years.
As nice as the idea of an all new, rejuvenated SG sounds, I really don't see any way of making it possible.
Even if the site were started from scratch (not even considering the hours and effort that would need to be put in to getting this going) with written content and staff, I don't see the place generating any more residual buzz than your regular SG Day form event. Fan sites and forums just don't work the same way as they did in the late 90's and early 00's. People want to get their news from blogs and social media, not be part of a community. We tried this a few years back with Hype Up. There was a lot of buzz at the start, but it dropped off very quickly, despite almost daily news updates (including features and podcasts etc). I believe SG has a far better purpose and value simply as it is, an archive that goes back to the archaic age of internet communication. An archive that you can still post in, if for any reason you happen to want to :tea
Are you sure that's what people want and not just their limited options? SG is one of the few places people still have the option of being part of a forum community. Blogs and social media are...meh, but they've taken over.
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Not that anyone cares, but interestingly (to me :upsd) one of the biggest websites in France in terms of traffic is jeuxvideo.com. The forum already existed back in the "good old days" too.

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums.htm
Their fora are still booming, they're like the richest website in France.

So yeah, at least the forum concept still works in countries which hate change. :p
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I don't think there's anything I/we could possibly do to make SG popular for long enough to pay off for the effort it requires.
The fact that hardly anybody here plays/likes Square games any more doesn't help. We'd have to go Sektor 7/Wandering Flame/Geekspot/Hype Up on it, and you know how that one ends.
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Oh yeah, I definitely agree with that part. Relaunching a successful website would be a full time job and it wouldn't pay the rent, so it's not exactly a viable option.
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