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I have three sons, ages 16, 15, and 12. I was also in an abusive marriage for ten years in which my 15 year old was a frequent target of my x husband. These boys had a rough time of it, as did we all.

After I left my husband my children acted out for a short time, we all spoke of feeling relief and feeling safe yet there were still some rough spots as I got the hang of trying to do it alone.

Several years ago my accountability program found that the computer had been accessing pornography. Turns out it was my middle son. To date he has been 'caught' accessing pornography many times since then. He was 13 I think when this started.

I banned him from the computer, but after a few months I would allow him to be on it for short periods of time. Each and every single time my son would access pornography within days (and sometimes hours) of being allowed back online. He was aware that he would be caught because the computers are monitored but he chose to do it anyway.

Most recently my youngest son allowed my middle son to play with his PSP. Brandon (the middle child) used it to immediately access pornography online. The child is now banned from computers, video games and so forth. I've talked until I'm blue in the face, I've grown angry and yelled, I've cried when I was alone and when I was in front of him. I've had him read Dworkin, my site, and other places (namely OAG's site) and I still can't unseat this problem. He can recite feminist literature all day long, he can understand the tenets, the ideas behind it, how it links together but he will not allow this knowledge to stand in the way of his porn use.

I don't think I'm looking for advice (I've tried everything I could think of so far) but more a place to simply be sad. I can clearly see why he's looking at pornography, I've figured all that out readily enough, but I can't seem to make it stop.

I know, that as soon as my child leaves my home and moves into his own place that he will be looking at porn immediately. I know that I am raising a problem for women. I know that this child will one day grow and will fully absorb the messages that porn sends to men. I know that my child masturbates to degradation of my people (when I use that phrase I mean womyn) and that with every orgasm he will further solidify his own hatred of and superiority over, women.

I know that there will likely come a day where my son coerces a young woman into sex (rape) and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it. I look into the eyes of my son and they still sparkle like they did when he was a baby, but he's not a baby anymore, he's growing into a man and that man will have trained himself to degrade women before he leaves my home.

As a radical feminist who puts women first I cannot begin to determine what I should do with regards to this issue. My heart breaks because there is nothing I can do to protect the womyn he will come into contact with.

I have three boys. One of them is lost to me and as a mother and a radical womyn this breaks my heart in a way I can scarcely express. I don't know if it says something terrible about me, but you know what haunts me late at night? More than anything else? I know, in my heart of hearts that, knowing what I know now, if I had it to do over again I would have had that abortion.

I also find myself blaming myself over and over again, even though that radical womyn inside of me stands up and yells that I'm placing blame in the wrong place. I'm not sure what I intended to say with this message. I began writing it this morning and put it away again and finally decided to finish it this evening. I think that maybe I just wanted to share, I keep trying with Brandon and I keep failing. He simply doesn't care. When he wants to jerk off, everything goes right out the window.

http://www.womensspace.org/Feminist_Motherhood/182.html

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wow. I always thought you were a guy.
Anyway the internet is for porn obviously. Avenue Q owned it but sadly WoW chaps got the sound quality best :p
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If porn is soooooo degrading to women, why does there seme to be no shortage of women willing to get naked and fuck on camera?
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Questionmarktarius wrote:If porn is soooooo degrading to women, why does there seme to be no shortage of women willing to get naked and fuck on camera?
It's some easy fucking money, innit?
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Post by Shinji Hiryu »

Meh, what a mom >.>

reminded me of this though, quoted a short part of it:
http://blogs.smh.com.au/lifestyle/allme ... _redu.html
Sex, lies and prostitution

Earlier this year I visited a prostitute for one obvious, practical reason and another less so: I'm sick of lying to women. Being single and in my 30s, I find it increasingly difficult to justify the lies and manipulation involved in having a sexual relationship with women who I'm not in love with.

Call it a gift, but I can tell within about two hours whether I could fall for a girl. Through weary experience, I estimate she comes along about every two years - and wears cool shoes.

That leaves a lot of time between drinks and 24-month bouts of celibacy don't really appeal to me while I have a full head of hair and abdominals.

The problem I, and I wager many other single men, face nowadays is if you go on more than a couple of dates with a woman, the majority want to know where the relationship is going. If you're blunt enough to say nowhere except the bedroom, feelings get hurt.

If you've had sex before that conversation, it's often like you've reneged on an unspoken emotional IOU guaranteeing continued involvement in the partnership. You're a user. A player. A dog. I can show you the text messages if you don't believe me.

Having used prostitutes in my 20s, it occurred to me recently that the simplicity of a cash exchange would be a more honest, and I dare say, moral alternative to bullshitting women into bed.

Political correctness tells me I should be ashamed of visiting a sex-worker but I'm not.

Despite what some people would have you believe, men do not control the sexual spigot at my local pub.

Women are the guardians of that flow and while they may torture and bankrupt themselves with dieting, beauty regimes and cosmetic surgery to maintain that influence, men exhaust themselves accruing wealth and power with which to purchase their attraction in the marketplace known as matrimony.

Prostitution pares this transaction back to its base elements. An estimated one in six Australian men have at some point in their life visited a sex worker, according to the Australian Study of Health and Relationships conducted by La Trobe University.

But it is something blokes will rarely admit to and this stigma radiates directly from the prostitute, a woman whose career choice is sneered at by most and condescended to by the rest.

Critics of the sex industry, such as the US conservative Hadley Arkes, say that prostitution "inescapably implies that the intimacy of sexual intercourse need not be connected to any authentic sentiment of love and that it need not take place in a setting marked by the presence of commitment.

"In that sense it might be said that prostitution patronises the corruption of physical love: it reduces physical love to the kind of hydraulic action that animals may share, and as it does that it detaches the act of intercourse from the kind of love that is distinctly human."

The obvious reply to this is why does sex have to be so damn serious and why do I have to be in love to indulge in it? That's the rub, I guess, because though meaningless sex can be good fun, it's transcendent when you're in love.

The prostitute whom I visited most recently told me her name was Shannon and as she took her clothes off and I observed her body language, we fell into dismal syncopation; when I saw she didn't want to be there, neither did I.
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Anyway, surprised SG's still afloat... how's life been everyone? :choco
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Re: mom wants to get rid of child after realizing he likes p

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This woman (sorry, "womyn)" is a horrible mother in oh so many ways, but more importantly I have to ask this:
WTF are you doing reading this stuff anyway? If you got it from another site, did you bother asking the person who posted it first this same question?
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Re: mom wants to get rid of child after realizing he likes p

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Lord Golbez wrote:This woman (sorry, "womyn)" is a horrible mother in oh so many ways, but more importantly I have to ask this:
WTF are you doing reading this stuff anyway? If you got it from another site, did you bother asking the person who posted it first this same question?
It was originally posted on something awful. The user who posted it bookmarked the forum because the crazy bitches who post there are hilarious.
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"Son, I want to have aborted you before you were born because you're going to rape women because you like to see them naked."

An excercise in idiocy, certainly.
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Bitch needs a slap to the face. Repeatedly. With the person doing the slapping wearing some of my claw rings.
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That would only make her feel like she was more right.
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Yuka wrote:Bitch needs a slap to the face. Repeatedly. With the person doing the slapping wearing some of my claw rings.
You have claw rings?
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I do indeed. Two finger tips and a full 3 shank finger armour ring.

I'll piccie them later,
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That's pretty awesome.
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Gothtastic!
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They had better be sharp.
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Where are my PIX!? :boo
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"This woman...oh excuse me...womyn, does realize that feminism is a lost cause, rooted in hatred fro men due to prior mistreatment...right? I mean think about it, feminism isn't really more than idiotic beliefs tied to sexism against men... The truth is that feminism is just a way for womyn {lol} to bolster their ego and act as if they are "superior" to the male gender, simply because one particular male decided to be abusive... Instead of fighting back or not even realizing no one man represents the entire male gender, they choose to make themselves a separate gender entirely from even "normal women" and are only taught to hate..."

"So the kid likes porn and likes to masterbate, if she knew basic hormones and how they worked, she'd know this was a natural need that both genders need. Instead she tries to raise a male child into a "womyn" which just plain isn't meant to work... I'm sure I'd be rich if I had a penny for every abusive relationship, but remember that it works both ways. Men use physical abuse while women prefer psychological abuse. A man will beat you while a woman will sleep with another man. This isn't to imply women are sluts, whores, tramps or what have you, only that such an act affects a man mentally."

"Also there is just plain stupidity in thinking that porn leads to immediate rape of the opposite gender... Porn leads to jacking off or if you can talk your partner into watching with you, improved intercourse. What promotes rape would be an abusive upbringing by a motherly figure, yes a womyn...scared? This leads to a male generating a general disgust for how a woman basically treats him, thus giving him the reasoning that since women took what he wanted from him such as a happy childhood, he should be able to take from them curing his adulthood, through acts like rape. However since I am a "conesuire" of pornography since a young age, I can say from experience that I've not once had an urge to "rape" anyone male or female."

"She needs to realize that feminism leads to nothing but baseless ego boosts for women... A feminist would look at a womyn in an abusive relationship with a man and would perhaps say/think "That behaviour would never come from a woman. Yet if you showed a situation where the behaviour indeed comes from a woman, they'd create an excuse such as she is acting out of self defense or that she was drugged by the male. Untrue, women have the same violent tendencies a man can have, it simply varies on ability to suppress it... This varies from person to person and never gender."

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Random...your post is kind of assbackwards.

Feminism is not generally rooted in sexism. This woman is a radical feminist, which means that she is at the extreme of the movement, and the extreme is fucking stupid. A moderate feminist, or simply feminist, is someone who believes that women should be treated equally to men economically, legally and socially. That's not particularly stupid, and it's rooted in generations of discrimination that has been decreasing for a long time now, but is by no means gone.

Also, it's kind of retarded to say that being raised by a "womyn" leads to urges to rape women. Unless you've got some numbers to back that up, that statement doesn't really make any sense. While this womyn appears to be a terrible mother, that doesn't mean that her kids are going to be perverts, regardless of her assumptions.
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I wish there could be complete equality so everyone can see that nothing much changes and women will realize that men are just generally better at life.
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Men generally suck at pregnancy, I've found.
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Nah.

They just don't have enough practice.
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Men are only in charge of the insertion, the extraction process is for women. :E
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Post by Yuka »

Yeah, you get the piss easy bit! Women have to do all the fucking work.
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Post by Anonymous »

Some women really enjoy it.

Those women are insane.
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Post by Grey Fox »

At first, I totally thought the first paragraph was a lead in and you were actually a chick with 3 kids. I was really disappointed that this isn't the case.
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Post by Anonymous »

Now that you mention it, the RDM is actually a woman with four kids.
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Post by Yuka »

We already knew that! :boo

Tell us something interesting.
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