Silent Hill 4

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:01 am

Time to start this discussion back up. The game let me down, but now that it's out stateside I'm giving it another go. I heard they took out the 2-headed creature? Discuss.

edit: and i never really noticed this until now.. what the hell is with the pan on the stove having no handle?

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:23 am

I've been playing it for a few hours at a time since I picked it up on Wednesday. I like it so far and I'm at [spoiler]Store World revisted[/spoiler]

The Twin monsters are still in it. I'm assuming thats what monster you mean by the two headed creature comment.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:27 am

Do the spoiler tags not work? Uhh cause this is gonna be some limited discussion if so.

edit: i dont feel like digging out my jap copy, but for anyone else who played it, when you charge a max hit doesn't henry step into it? he's not doing it in the NA copy.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:59 pm

Picking this shit up today after/before work. I wonder how long I can peep at Eileen before I get bored.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:25 am

Its a good game from what I've heard. SH3 was pretty good too, to my surprise at least.

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:00 am

I beat it last night. I put it above SH3 but below SH1 & 2 in terms of plot and characetr development.

I love the new combat system.

It makes fighting a ton of enemies actually fun. Too bad the same can't be said about SH3 and it's godamn army of monsters behind every fucking door.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:08 am

the 3rd child wrote:what the hell is with the pan on the stove having no handle?

It's an EVIL pan, you see.

fuse · Post by **fuse** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:25 am

i can't say i'm enjoying it too much sofar... everything seems very clunky and blah. i like the soundtrack though

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:24 pm

I picked this up last night and played until I got to "BUILDING WORLD." (:l)

Anyway, I'm liking it so far. The only problem I really have with the game so far is the save system. Every time I want to save my progress I have to enter a tunnel, watch the tunnel cutscene, watch the waking up cutscene, walk all the way to the notebook, walk to the bathroom tunnel, and watch the tunnel cutscene again. After about the 20th time this got very annoying. Not as annoying as Jasper the stuttering redneck, but annoying nonetheless.

Sephira · Post by **Sephira** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:11 pm

I just rented it today, so I'm still trying to save Cynthia, aka, "Miss Hooker".

"I'll do you a 'special favour' when we get out of here..."

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:28 pm

Cid wrote:I picked this up last night and played until I got to "BUILDING WORLD." (:l)

Anyway, I'm liking it so far. The only problem I really have with the game so far is the save system. Every time I want to save my progress I have to enter a tunnel, watch the tunnel cutscene, watch the waking up cutscene, walk all the way to the notebook, walk to the bathroom tunnel, and watch the tunnel cutscene again. After about the 20th time this got very annoying. Not as annoying as Jasper the stuttering redneck, but annoying nonetheless.

That's why you press start to skip it like you can any other cutscene, nubbo.

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:31 pm

The game was ok. I'm glad i didn't have to look at the map every minute like in the other games and the redundant radio was gone!

The game would have been awesome if Henry Townsend had any kind of personality.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:56 am

TheStrife wrote:
Cid wrote:I picked this up last night and played until I got to "BUILDING WORLD." (:l)

Anyway, I'm liking it so far. The only problem I really have with the game so far is the save system. Every time I want to save my progress I have to enter a tunnel, watch the tunnel cutscene, watch the waking up cutscene, walk all the way to the notebook, walk to the bathroom tunnel, and watch the tunnel cutscene again. After about the 20th time this got very annoying. Not as annoying as Jasper the stuttering redneck, but annoying nonetheless.
That's why you press start to skip it like you can any other cutscene, nubbo.

Fuck!

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:26 am

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:08 am

Yeah Henry is boring and so is his VA. He just like stands and stares at the people hes talking to (um wtf if I were stuck in some alternate HELL dimension and met someone normal I would be ecstatic), he just sits there and asks a few stupid questions. Also with the Map and all the other things gone its alot different, but has anyone noticed its alot easier? Its pretty linear and the puzzles are too easy. I have never once used the gun. Also, this game is not nearly as scary as the other SH's, even SH3 IMO was scary, the environments are pretty simple in comparison to others. Although his room does bring an air of desperation about.

dem · Post by **dem** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:37 am

Cid you can skip the tunnel cutscene by pressing start.

I actually kind of like Henry. Rather than flip out like some normal person would he is just completely dumbfounded and speechless.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:58 am

The more and more I think about SH4 the more and more I realize that none of them will ever be as good as the first one.

dem · Post by **dem** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:31 am

I've been playing the first one again in my quest to play all 4 games this week and I must say it really feels dated. There are so many things about it that just don't hold up to the later games in the series. The music for the most part isn't as haunting and the dialogue is sub-par at best. It even has a scene where a cat jumps out to scare you. A FUCKING CAT; the biggest horror cliche in the book. Capcom never even did that with any of the Resident Evil games(not that I'm knocking RE, I just like those games for different reasons). The only thing in Silent Hill that holds up after all these years is the dark atmosphere and overall creepiness of the locations in the game.

In my opinion the Silent Hill series didn't really come into its own until the second installment.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:41 am

Yeah, the first one was testing out the new engine and way of doing things. The second was when it really got started. The third went all out, and the fourth..is different.

dem · Post by **dem** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:43 am

I just hope that Silent Hill 5 actually takes place in Silent Hill.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:11 am

They said silent hill 5 is the last one for the ps2.

Xephonic · Post by **Xephonic** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:32 am

the 3rd child wrote:They said silent hill 5 is the last one for the ps2.

im pretty sure they said 4 was..

nomaru · Post by **nomaru** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:37 pm

i need to get this game. i played the first one in my room with all the lights off with some folks watching. it was like a real time horror movie

ShadowMoses · Post by **ShadowMoses** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:54 pm

dem wrote:I just hope that Silent Hill 5 actually takes place in Silent Hill.

i hope the next silent hill is just fun to play. rather than only playing it because of the atmosphere and story line and grainy graphics

nomaru · Post by **nomaru** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:58 pm

hmm

it's been awhile since i played the game...are the graphics worse now? i figure the newer versions are better

that last one i played is the original one

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:59 pm

The "grainy graphics" are the noise filter.

Turn it off if you want them to look normal.

And yes, Silent Hill 4 is the last one for the PS2. They've stated in an interview that they wanted to make the next SH on a next gen platform.

ShadowMoses · Post by **ShadowMoses** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:01 pm

oh no, i didnt mean that i disliked the noise filter, i meant that i liked it and it fits the game well. overall i like the silent hill series but i just wish there was more too it in the way of action.

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:26 pm

SH3 and 4 both had more than enough action for a SH title. If you want non stop action with a plot thrown in as an after though, go play the RE series.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:59 am

Xephonic wrote:
the 3rd child wrote:They said silent hill 5 is the last one for the ps2.
im pretty sure they said 4 was..

I just read an article that said 5 was the last the one. I think it was one of the deisgners that said so..

edit: i just looked around on the net and it seems like most of the sites say it's confirmed for next gen but I also remember reading an interview within the past 2 weeks with one of the designers.. it basically focused on how he was dissapointed with SH4 but the end he mentioned 5 being for current technology.

and i would go beyond saying SH4 had more than enough action, it had too much.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:02 am

I actually heard that this game was originally started in development as seperate game from the SH series...Supposedly they found such striking similarities that they decided to update and make it the next SH.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:06 pm

fire2ash wrote:I actually heard that this game was originally started in development as seperate game from the SH series...Supposedly they found such striking similarities that they decided to update and make it the next SH.

Are you talking about 4? If so, that would make sense to me. I would appreciate 4 more if it wasn't called Silent Hill.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:03 am

Yup, when I heard it, it made perfect sense to me too. They should call it "The hole" not the room, but the room sounds a little bit more proper as well as still giving it that mysterious name.

TheStrife · Post by **TheStrife** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:46 am

Has anyone else noticed how much harder the game is if you play it on a New Fear save?

Dogs are giving me a bitch of a time to kill..well untill I got the chainsaw anyways.

the 3rd child · Post by **the 3rd child** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:52 am

That really does make sense. This game shouldn't have been a Silent Hill. :)

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