Final Fantasy XII out!

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:53 pm

lol Monolith soft. I hope Mystwalker ends up better than that joke.

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:35 pm

Argh! Kill it! Kill it!

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:30 pm

WaWard wrote:lol Monolith soft. I hope Mystwalker ends up better than that joke.

Hmm, I know your opinion on Xenosaga, but what about Baten Kaitos?

(as far as I'm concerned, I have none on both, as I haven't actually played any of these two series)
Still, I do hope too that Mystwalker ends up better than them, coz I know Monolith Soft games aren't too popular (especially compared to, say, Xenogears)

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:45 am

Xenogears was good for it's time but vastly over-rated.
I think if it came out today (with better graphics and such), it would probably be slated by most of the people who now sing it's praises.
I think people who are hoping hoping to be impressed/delighted in the same quantities by anything to come are not only fooling themselves but also closing their minds to something that they could well enjoy if they cleared their mind of Xenogears / FFVII and the like.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:06 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:
WaWard wrote:lol Monolith soft. I hope Mystwalker ends up better than that joke.
Hmm, I know your opinion on Xenosaga, but what about Baten Kaitos?

I hate card games IRL, and there's no reason why I would like them just cause they're prettier.

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:13 am

I think Inspiration is becoming a key word for us to enjoy games these days. Ispiration is what makes developers see beyond the length of their own nose and it is the same word that makes them be as creative as possible.

As a result, we, the gamer, enjoy the games more because we knów that the games were inspired by people who use their heads (in a positive gaming way

) instead of their bank account!

personally i think that SE has become greedy and that it drove away the creative designers. Which doesn't mean SE can't produce any quality games anymore...but it kinda seems to me, they chose a path from which they cannot retrace their steps! And that all began with FFX-2.
Although there's nothing really much wrong with it, it just shows that SE was running out of ideas at the time and thought they could get away with it...and they did! How else could you explain the fact the milking that has become our beloved FFVII! or the millking that is to become FFXIII!

I'll probably still buy the FF related games, because despite their lack of 'inspiration and creativeness' i still think, for the moment, that they produce high quality gaming experiences!

edit: and i'm a whore

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:57 pm

most reports say that the man originally responsible for FFXII and SE's most talented staff member also took off after whatever caused him to quit the FFXII project.

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:49 pm

I hope this doesn't get uglier

Chrono_Misjudged · Post by **Chrono_Misjudged** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:44 pm

FFXII will go down in history like the game that took the longest in being released. I can't still believe they're taking so long in release the game in my country. What a nerve!!! How dare them!!!

Plaztik you're right about FFX-2, they probably blundered with FFX-2, What an odd RPG!!! It seems whatever but a RPG game!!! I'm also pleased to see beautiful girls starring my favourite RPG games (like Penelo

), but underline or highlight fashionable characters (like in FFX-2), plenty of trendy and features like the clothes, music, etc... instead of the RPG itself, is a glaring mistake. What about the classical features that used to reign in the former RPGs? Has They lost forever instead of trends, fashion or ShojoManga-featured characteristics like Clothes, Music, Performances, etc...? What about the honour in epic stories? What about the classical weapons (swords,knives,spears,axes,baselards,bows,gauntlets,etc...)? I have to say that FF series always used to be modern, fashionable (the contrary happens in DQ series) but in this case (FFX-2), they exaggerate a lot, FFX-2 isn't in RPG ranges, it would be out from the meaning of RPG. FFX-2 opens a new RPG way for the girls to play RPGs, but it seems to be so much effeminate for the boys.

Plaztik think that FFX-2 is only a spin-off, and I couldn't imagine a spin-off surpassing the main RPG, I think the non spin-off RPG games always will be better than the spin-off ones. Or at least, a little better than the spin-off ones (these last would play the role as a complement for tha main one)

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:37 am

it's not the Theme that makes the RPG...it's the gameplay...and while FFX-2 wasn't a traditional RPG in te sense of style and fashion, as you call it, it still is a RPG. And it was an ok game...'cept for the fact that it was the start of 'mainstream' milking for SE.

Chrono_Misjudged · Post by **Chrono_Misjudged** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:26 am

What do you mean with 'milk'? milk=take advantage of?
An example of so super milking game would be FFVII

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:35 am

"Milking for all it's worth"
Draining as much revenue as possible from it.

Cybernetic Empire · Post by **Cybernetic Empire** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:46 pm

Chrono_Misjudged wrote: An example of so super milking game would be FFVII

He's learning!

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:31 pm

Chrono_Misjudged wrote:What do you mean with 'milk'? milk=take advantage of?
An example of so super milking game would be FFVII

They're taking a cue from the most awesome company ever - Capcom - but they've halted development of the non-milk games. I love you SE

GiZMO · Post by **GiZMO** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:04 am

Is anyone actually planning on getting this game? I'm looking at the collector's edition (for the steel packaging, heh). On ebgames.com there's a deal that you get 20% off the book when you preorder it with the game, by using a coupon code. Anyone know how this works (I've never order from the site)?

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:24 am

Only the non-collector edition. I don't need the fanboy DVD that comes with it to make me feel like a japanophile geek, the game takes perfectly care of it.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:09 pm

I'd always go with a Special Edition if one was readily available.

Square Gamer

Final Fantasy XII out!

FFXII will go down in history

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