Batman motherfucking begins (won't find no spoilers here)

[Calbrena]

So chris, could we watch that next wednesday in peckhamplex or something??

[Damien]

Orange Wednasdays? Sure!
I'll need to top up my phone for it though
I actually still need to see Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Char told me it's funny), Sin City (I want to find out it's shit), and League of Gentlemen (but I think that's already passed ).

[Calbrena]

You won't have to if I see Michael before we go. I'll try to convince him to meet me on tuesday. (...he wants to see me after the 23rd )

Or if we both use our orange wednesday thingie we could also watch another movie and spend all day in peckhamplex?

[Damien]

Yay! We need t-shirts and 10p fo the Pokemon shit bin

[Calbrena]

And free ME Haribos!

Anyway, can't wait to see it!

[ruroken]

add another "this movie was great" to the count

Alfred kept reminding me of Austin Powers' dad though. And some of my fellow audience were so fucking noisy.

And why does Bruce have to lower his voice when he dons the mask? I thought it sounded unnatural at some parts; but overall the show's great!

[Doom]

i like how either Michael Caine or Jon Voight play all the dads/sidekicks/etc

[Fei Ayanami]

Alfred kept reminding me of Austin Powers' dad though. And some of my fellow audience were so fucking noisy.

And why does Bruce have to lower his voice when he dons the mask? I thought it sounded unnatural at some parts; but overall the show's great!

michael caine kept reminding me of the original alfie no I'm lying I never saw that. more like he reminded me of scrooge from the muppets christmas carol.

and batman has to try to disguise his voice so people don't figure out he's bruce wayne. [INSERT BATMAN SMILEY HERE]

[livewire]

Heck yeah it was good.

Theres a How Stuff Works entry here ( http://www.howstuffworks.com/batsuit.htm ) about the Batsuit, which is very awesome. And in it, Christian Bale mentions how the suit is "hot, dark and sweaty and it gives me a headache" -- which is what gave him more motivation to be so menacing

[ruroken]

Ah, but why not use technology to do that for him? Doesn't he fear choking up at some point of his superhero career, especially if he has a long conversation?

[Kakeru]

I loved this movie. I never expected it would be [spoiler]the scarecrow as the first bad guy instead of the joker.[/spoiler] That was awsome. However what didn't make sense to me was [spoiler]the microwave thing that vaporized the water, I mean it's basically a microwave that cooks outward so how do you avoid cooking people with that thing?[/spoiler]

[Vibing_V]

I liked the voic changing, it didn't bother me.

This movie was soooooooooooooooooooooo good.

[Damien]

Hoe the hell can everybody like this?

[Vibing_V]

because it's what a movie should be!

[Damien]

I didn't think action movies were a girls thing?

[Vibing_V]

and clearly labels and stereotypes should be assumed to be true all the time [spoiler=:P]there was a good dose of drama too [/spoiler]

[Garbo]

yah there's basically like 0 people who don't like this movie, those bad reviewers at rottentomatoes don't count.

It's probably people like michelle alexandria, the only person to give alone in the dark a fresh rating, only to diss troy and kill bill as being rotten.

[WaWard]

i hear this movie is pretty much bombing (for a movie of its scale that is).

I will go see it i swear

[mz]

and clearly labels and stereotypes should be assumed to be true all the time [spoiler=:P]there was a good dose of drama too [/spoiler]

Stereotypes are stereotypes because they are generally true for a vast number of whom they are related.

One of the rotten reviews from Rottentomatoes.com:

"There's nothing particularly wrong with Begins, but in a way, that's exactly what's wrong with it."

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

[Reiji]

Ken Watanabe's cotton ball moustache looked like it was going to fall off.

But this movie is .

[Lord Golbez]

One of the rotten reviews from Rottentomatoes.com:

"There's nothing particularly wrong with Begins, but in a way, that's exactly what's wrong with it."

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

No man, that's like totally profound.

[Vibing_V]

and clearly labels and stereotypes should be assumed to be true all the time [spoiler=:P]there was a good dose of drama too [/spoiler]

Stereotypes are stereotypes because they are generally true for a vast number of whom they are related.

Most != all. There's also a thing called self fulfilling prophecy, but anygays...

[CDestroyer]

Good review ++

I think I'll just forget the other movies didnt exist, and this one was really the first. Then I'll be happy

[ruroken]

Good review ++

I think I'll just forget the other movies didnt exist, and this one was really the first. Then I'll be happy

I thought you were Kage

[Kakeru]

One of the rotten reviews from Rottentomatoes.com:

"There's nothing particularly wrong with Begins, but in a way, that's exactly what's wrong with it."

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

[spoiler=:check][/spoiler]

[Entr0pi3]

Stereotypes are stereotypes because they are generally true for a vast number of whom they are related.

Beliefs which make thinking needless. How convenient
"Probabilities" based on means with no mention to variance are worthless. Moreover, most stereotypes actually don't even match real statistics.
[spoiler=Example]Stereotype : girls don't play games
Fact : roughly 43% of PC gamers and 35% of console gamers are women
Stereotype : games are for kids
Fact : roughly 70% of PC gamers and 56% of console gamers are over 18[/spoiler]

[Calbrena]

[spoiler=:check]pwned [/spoiler]

[Fei Ayanami]

brothers, sisters, can't you see? the future's owned by you and me!

[Calbrena]

[spoiler=:nub3]Can I change your rank to nub of the week please? [/spoiler]

I've just seen a trailer on TV, Bale looks hot as Batman

[Lord Golbez]

Stereotypes are stereotypes because they are generally true for a vast number of whom they are related.

Beliefs which make thinking needless. How convenient
"Probabilities" based on means with no mention to variance are worthless. Moreover, most stereotypes actually don't even match real statistics.
[spoiler=Example]Stereotype : girls don't play games
Fact : roughly 43% of PC gamers and 35% of console gamers are women
Stereotype : games are for kids
Fact : roughly 70% of PC gamers and 56% of console gamers are over 18[/spoiler]

Meh...this is a limited subcategory of stereotypes concerning only one topic. Of course, I'm inclined to agree with you anyway, just because you said "variance."

[Entr0pi3]

You mean I'm stereotyping stereotypes?
A single example can never cover every cases, obviously, or it wouldn't be called example.
I don't know of any broad study providing statistics on several large categories of stereotypes, unfortunately
(though sites dedicated to debunking hoaxes and urban legens might contain some)

More on topic, I think I'm gonna go and watch this movie tomorrow.

[Doom]

[spoiler=Counterexample]Stereotype: girls are illogical
Fact: girls are illogical

not that I'm referring to anyone specifically
meh i feel hostile[/spoiler]

[Entr0pi3]

It's not an example then... Unless you're trying to pass as a girl? Self-fulfilling prophecies get's ~~

Editing your post while I answer

[Lord Golbez]

Doom's pissed at a girl clearly.....

[Doom]

just cranky

[Calbrena]

[spoiler=Counterexample]Stereotype: girls are illogical
Fact: girls are illogical

not that I'm referring to anyone specifically
meh i feel hostile[/spoiler]

But Ent's example is quite logical to me
Is that because I'm a girl and therefore supposed to be illogical too?

[Entr0pi3]

But Ent's example is quite logical to me
Is that because I'm a girl and therefore supposed to be illogical too?

You heard Doom. It's a fact, so stop using logical words such as "but" and "therefore" in sentences that make sense, or you're gonna trigger a paradoxical loop that will cause a rip in the fabric of reality.

[Lord Golbez]

Logical words?

[Entr0pi3]

Yes?
"But" is a bit of a stretch, yet it does hold some logical value, + some connotation of contrast/opposition, which makes it very useful when building a logical argumentation. But what would I know ?

[Calbrena]

So what does this all have to do with Batman?




EDIT: oh ok, I know: Is the bat in the box dead or alive?

[Lord Golbez]

No. Leon could have been resurrected.

[Doom]

hahaha
well, while i am disposed to abstain from expounding on such an obviously throwaway comment, i will say that i never considered entropie's examples to be illogical; my "point", using what is obviously not its most concrete or objective manifestation, is that there is duality of authenticity in the nature of stereotypes, not in specific cases of stereotypes. needless to say, i could have presented this with a more credible proposition, but i was heavily opposed to the expenditure of either the time or the effort to conduct a serious discussion, hoping that my jestful dictum would be sufficient to articulate my contention. in conclusion, i have subjected the comment that i made to a rather excessive justification, that is, if you actually took the time to read this.

[Calbrena]

hahaha
well, while i am disposed to obstain from expounding on such an obviously throwaway comment, i will say that i never considered entropie's examples to be illogical; my "point", using what is obviously not its most concrete or objective manifestation, is that there is duality in the nature of stereotypes, but not in specific cases of stereotypes. needless to say, i could have presented this with a more credible proposition, but i was heavily opposed to the expenditure of either the time or the effort to conduct a serious discussion, hoping that my jestful dictum would be sufficient to articulate my contention. in conclusion, i have subjected the comment that i made to a rather excessive justification, that is, if you actually read took the time to read this.

I read took the time to read it and that's how I can tell you should edit your post

[Doom]

awesome

[Lord Golbez]

that is, if you actually read took the time to read this.

I shouldn't have! Also, you made a spelling error!

[Entr0pi3]

Sounds like taken straight out of a speech generator (jestful dictum = ? )
[spoiler=:upsd]If some stereotypes are false, and some are true, it means we have no information on the precision and certainty of stereotypes in general - consequently this source of information isn't safe relying on...[spoiler=:P]God, I wish my Phd topic wouldn't subject me to deal with fuzzy logic and the theory of possibilities on a daily basis[/spoiler][/spoiler]

Let's stick to the topic now

[Damien]

[Doom]

Also, you made a spelling error!

this is true and earns a well-deserved
also, i'm pretty sure jestful isn't a real word, but i like making up words on occasion, so i'll leave it

anyway, has anyone read that article where bale is like (paraphrased), "i want the next batman to be an R-rated batman, cuz i want it to have sex, cuz batman should have lots of sex"

[Lord Golbez]

Sounds like taken straight out of a speech generator (jestful dictum = ? )
[spoiler=:upsd]If some stereotypes are false, and some are true, it means we have no information on the precision and certainty of stereotypes in general - consequently this source of information isn't safe relying on[/spoiler]

Let's stick to the topic now

Stereotypes aren't safe to rely on anyway, because they are never true in 100% of cases. Generally, they have some truth to them in that the groups to which they are applied manifest a greater incidence of stereotypical behavior than the base comparison group. However, I do believe most stereotypes do succeed in matching that criterion.

[Calbrena]

anyway, has anyone read that article where bale is like (paraphrased), "i want the next batman to be an R-rated batman, cuz i want it to have sex, cuz batman should have lots of sex"

No, haven't read it
So does it mean there will be lots of gay sex in the next Batman movie?