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They are doing full school reopenings here (high school kids get 2 days a week I think) but refuse to make masks mandatory.
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Same except with masks
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Both are stupid and deserving of executions. Good parents sharpen the guillotine.
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Gonna be the hottest day of the year so far in manchhester (And the only non rainy day this month) and the government have warned not to socialise at home. Guess what’s going to happen?
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Lord Golbez wrote:Both are stupid and deserving of executions. Good parents sharpen the guillotine.
We are nowhere near as bad as in the states and it can be done safely.

Except we’re not doing it safely so 🤷‍♂️
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Get those guillotines up and running, sir!
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Meanwhile the gov, sending their kids to capable private schools: “let them eat cake”
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So we’re told we’re not allowed to see friends and family in homes, gardens and indoor areas, yet they’re going ahead with this “eat out to help out” £10 off at restaurant chains bullshit.
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I have nausea today and feel a bit shit
If it doesn’t pass off to get tested I go :sadtea
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Tested just for nausea? If you have no other symptoms, I'd say it's highly unlikely it's coronavirus. Like probably almost as close to unlikely as if you were asymptomatic.
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I had hot and cold flashes too but they stopped since I started resting. If they resume off to get tested I go
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I don't even know how to get tested here. All I know is how to get £10 off at KFC to save the economy, and that a rave with 100+ people is fine but you can't have your mum sit in your garden 2 metres away.
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Can’t see how your mum in your garden is going to help the economy.
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Maybe she's planting a money bush.
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Thiss xkcd comic did not age well.
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Turns out if we let idiots survive to reproductive age, they make more of themselves and we evolve to be collectively dumber.
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Damien wrote:No
Thinking about the hubris of my initial answer and the fact that Fei created this as a joke thread with the initial post being just "u afraid?"...
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I have thought about this a few times myself.
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The whole start of the thread doesn't seem to be taking anything all too seriously.
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Damien wrote:All's lining up well for a fortnight at home for Animal Crossing though :E
5 months at home with Animal Crossing :upsd
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.... i still walked outside. just avoided people.

overall not too different.
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I always avoided people, but while in the past I would walk a bit off the sidewalk to go around them, now I'll just straight up turn around and walk the other way or if I really need to pass them I'll go far off onto the lawn to go around them.

It:s actually kind of freeing to have an excuse to avoid people like the plague literally.
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Lord Golbez wrote:I always avoided people, but while in the past I would walk a bit off the sidewalk to go around them, now I'll just straight up turn around and walk the other way or if I really need to pass them I'll go far off onto the lawn to go around them.

It:s actually kind of freeing to have an excuse to avoid people like the plague literally.
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I’m just worried this situation will make me both agoraphobic and scared of people in the long term though.
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Damien wrote:I don't even know how to get tested here. All I know is how to get £10 off at KFC to save the economy, and that a rave with 100+ people is fine but you can't have your mum sit in your garden 2 metres away.
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Also masks are apparently mandatory on public transport here but every bus I went on today had 40% or fewer passengers wearing masks and they weren’t thrown off.
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Damien wrote:I’m just worried this situation will make me both agoraphobic and scared of people in the long term though.
I'm worried about this too. It's going to be strange transitioning to regular life again.

But also, being social is overall pretty fun so I don't think it'll be as tough as I imagine. The biggest hurdle will be feeling like it's "okay" again instead of dangerous.

They're finally making masks mandatory on transit here, but also cannot enforce it. I get why, it's a safety issue for drivers. They likewise can't enforce fare (though they do on people they feel they can, like college students). Makes no sense for a driver to risk personal harm enforcing it.

The downside, though, is all people are talking about is how they can't enforce it, and complaining about it -- so I imagine that's going to have a bit of a Streisand effect b/c more people will know they can get away without.

Social consciousness is more important than rules at fighting this thing. This is where we're having a shift here. People had mostly been good and our numbers low so the policies themselves have largely been hands off, trusting people to act in the right ways.

But now that's failing but it doesn't look like they want to implement harsher policies. But I think they will need to.
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Mask usage seems to be dropping here, probably because people who don’t want to wear a mask see so many others not wearing one and not even being questioned. So many people with masks on their chin as well.
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sadlol @ chin masks

I think the mandatory masks indoors rule here made a huge difference in normalizing mask wearing.
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Fei Ayanami wrote:sadlol @ chin masks

I think the mandatory masks indoors rule here made a huge difference in normalizing mask wearing.
Same.
I see plenty of chin masks outdoors, but idk I haven’t been in a crowd outside in a long ass time so these instances probably don’t matter much
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Damien wrote:Mask usage seems to be dropping here, probably because people who don’t want to wear a mask see so many others not wearing one and not even being questioned. So many people with masks on their chin as well.
What's the problem? I pull my mask down outdoors so I can get some fresh air. I then raise it up if anyone's getting too close or if I go indoors.
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Yeah it’s not the hugest deal if it’s down in a situation where not wearing a mask at all would be acceptable.
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Post by Fei Ayanami »

This thread in February:
“lol coronavirus”

This thread in August:
“Let us debate the finer points of mask usage.”
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So, BC has had a unique "disappointed parent" approach rather than a strict rule-based approach, and it's starting to show cracks. It's worked well thus far because people have taken personal responsibility (overall) and because we've been lucky with numbers/good at tracing.

But we are seeing the cases go up, the parties continue and ugh. I think it's really time for rules, specifically mask rules.

What I hate is that I see so many people say "well these partygoers are breaking the 50 person limit on gatherings. They don't care! They won't wear masks anyway!" But I beg to differ. If it becomes a rule and almost everyone is wearing masks, chances are these idiots will still wear one when they need to b/c of the societal/peer pressure. That way they can go be idiots at parties and catch the germs, but subsequently be far less likely to spread the germs they caught at said party when they go about their daily grocery shop or whatever.

I would feel much, much better about this than the current "well let's just do nothing but shake our heads" approach.
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Mask rules here are that they're mandatory in shops, shopping centres, public transport and transport stations, except if specific health needs make mask wearing dangerous. Thing is, discrimination rules override this, so basically nowhere will approach someone without a mask and question them through fear of being done for discrimination. Now that everybody knows that, far fewer people are wearing masks than a couple of weeks back.
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Vibing_V wrote:So, BC has had a unique "disappointed parent" approach rather than a strict rule-based approach, and it's starting to show cracks. It's worked well thus far because people have taken personal responsibility (overall) and because we've been lucky with numbers/good at tracing.

But we are seeing the cases go up, the parties continue and ugh. I think it's really time for rules, specifically mask rules.

What I hate is that I see so many people say "well these partygoers are breaking the 50 person limit on gatherings. They don't care! They won't wear masks anyway!" But I beg to differ. If it becomes a rule and almost everyone is wearing masks, chances are these idiots will still wear one when they need to b/c of the societal/peer pressure. That way they can go be idiots at parties and catch the germs, but subsequently be far less likely to spread the germs they caught at said party when they go about their daily grocery shop or whatever.

I would feel much, much better about this than the current "well let's just do nothing but shake our heads" approach.
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Seriously though wear fucking masks. I’ve sent my kids to daycamp in prep for school. It’s only 3 hours and they get to wear masks the entire time.

If kids can do it adult-babies can too
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Most adults with masks here are wearing them on their chin (or at least not over their nose).
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Covid killed a friend of mine back in AZ today. He couldn't go to the hospital because all the beds were full, presumably from all the kids partying and all the right wingers refusing to wear masks. I am so sick of the people in this fucking country.
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Sorry to hear that :(
I have no idea what’s going to happen from this point. The infection rate over here is on the up, the only additional rules they’re imposing is “no people in your home” in specific areas (though no pubs etc have to close) and meanwhile the government and media are teaming up for a “get back to the office” gaslighting campaign so people can start spending their money in the “correct” areas of the economy again.
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At first I blamed the government response but the longer this has gone on the more I see the citizenry completely disregard their own lives and the lives of others for various stupid reasons. No matter how on top of things the government is they can't fix people being idiots. If it were just those people dying I wouldn't give two shits but their stupidity is getting other people killed.
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I still blame the government, or more specifically, Trump. He's the one who decided to politicize Covid response (or lack thereof) and in doing so encouraged all the idiots.
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Yeah sometimes the “idiots” really just need some proper leadership, something that is horribly lacking...

Sorry Cid. :(
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Don’t worry, our citizens are also dumb here. A bunch of “”free thinking patriots” just protested against the lockdowns today about 10Gms away from my home.

It flew over their heads that the lockdowns have been over for 2-3 months, save from a couple of instances.
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Funny how so many self-described free-thinkers get all their opinions from the same 5 or 6 demagogues.
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A guide to free thinking by waward: look at the popular opinion, find a moron that believes the opposite because he’s a free thinker, cherry pick 1 fact that backs it up. Congrats you’re a modern 2G20 free thinker!
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Or plagiarize from Hunter Thompson novels and turn it into a conspiracy about everyone you don't like doing the only 2 things you still won't defend doing openly.
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