Dragon Quest 1-3 on Switch

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:33 am

Dragon Quest Original Trilogy is getting an english Switch release.

That seems like the perfect opportunity to start educating myself on that franchise.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:01 am

I'm know this sounds bad, but though I'm super glad this is happening, I really doubt I have the patience to play these, let alone the time. If they ever made some decent remakes, I'd probably give them a go, but, same with Final Fantasy, I'm over the first few.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:14 am

Im not too worried, but hopefully they wont be as bad as Lufia was.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:35 am

A collection of NES RPGs seems like the sort of thing I'd buy but never play.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:30 am

Asaroth Larot wrote:Im not too worried, but hopefully they wont be as bad as Lufia was.

I've only played the first one, but I can say if you're looking for more to the experience than the grind, you won't get much. There's a reason I used to call it "Level Up Warrior." There are like 3 or 4 actual things to do before going to the final dungeon in that game. Most if it is just level grinding.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:06 pm

They should have some cheats in like the Final Fantasy ports/remasters. Button that gets you to level 100 (or 30 or whatever the highest level is)

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:18 pm

I dont remember if I bitched about Lufia on here or not, but for as old as it is Final Fantasy 1 at least has some imagination and variety to it. Im hoping so does DQ1.

I wont be surprised if youre right and DQ1 is a slog though.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:30 pm

I never played Lufia, but a friend I had as a kid did, and one thing that sounded neat in theory was that Lufia begins with a sort of “final boss” fight and then jumps ahead a century or so. And then Lufia II is actually a prequel that tells the story of the characters that you briefly play as at the beginning of Lufia.

Again, I think this is cool in theory; I make no claims about the actual quality of these games.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:50 pm

Damien wrote:They should have some cheats in like the Final Fantasy ports/remasters. Button that gets you to level 100 (or 30 or whatever the highest level is)

But if you max out your level in FF, there's still an actual full game to get through, albeit an easy one. If you max out your level at the beginning of DQ, you basically just pick up 3 items and then go straight to the final boss.

It's a little more complicated than that. It might take awhile to find some of the items for instance. The point is though that very little happens in the game, even compared to the original FF. There are basically two plot points.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:44 pm

smeared ink wrote:I never played Lufia, but a friend I had as a kid did, and one thing that sounded neat in theory was that Lufia begins with a sort of “final boss” fight and then jumps ahead a century or so. And then Lufia II is actually a prequel that tells the story of the characters that you briefly play as at the beginning of Lufia.

Again, I think this is cool in theory; I make no claims about the actual quality of these games.

Yeah I rented Lufia 2 as a kid and thought it was promising from what I remember.

After the shitshow that was Lufia I found out that Lufia 1 and 2 were made by two completely different creative teams. Which if I get around to trying out 2 again as an adult Im glad to hear.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:00 pm

Lufia 2 is pretty decent I think. The dungeons kind of drag a bit too long, but otherwise it's a solid Wild Arms type game with heavy emphais on tools and puzzle solving.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:05 pm

Eww I’ve just seen screenshots on the Nintendo store. What have they done to Dragon Quest??
On the plus side, the first one is only £3.99 (though II is £5.35 and III is £9.79

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Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:39 pm

TBH, the first one is probably worth no more than half that.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:16 pm

I had a little look into it and it's phone versions. They updated the graphics to a more 16-bit feel and then went and ruined it by putting higher res sprites on top of it all. Square

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:25 am

I always hate those stupid high res sprites.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:16 am

Dragon Quest XI is now out on Switch. That was pretty much the unanimous SG Game of the Year last year. Anybody who hasn't played it ought to get it!

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:51 pm

I was going to defend the hi res sprites...until I saw what they actually looked like.

EDIT: Battle Art is great though.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:04 am

How playable are they?

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:29 am

Only played 1 so far but I guess the answer is very playable.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:10 am

Like did you enjoy it?

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:27 am

Eh I guess so. I wasnt holding it up to super high standard or anything and it wasnt long enough to overstay it's welcome.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 am

I'm probably going to try playing FFVIII once I'm done with Link's Awakening (which will be soon). May pick up these Dragon Quests when they eventually lower in price. got lots of other shit on my Switch waiting to be played.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:33 pm

I'm hearing these are shoddy ports. I might get them one day but idk anymore. Might as well just get the iOS ones now that they have Dual Shock support.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:51 pm

Depends hat kinda' size screen you wanna play on.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:01 pm

yah I know

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:55 am

Conrad's helmet looks fucking retarded

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:29 pm

Dragon Quest 2 is done.

It reminded me a lot of Final Fantasy 1 in a lot of ways. The game is structured in a very similar way where it opens up just a little bit in and then you basically go exploring and go running down leads on what youre supposed to do on townspeople comments and sometimes things can be pretty fucking obtuse.

I actually would rate this game a little higher than Final Fantasy 1. Though the cracks in the basic battle system design did start to creep in at the finish line.

Whoever thought it was a good idea to put a high accuracy full party instant death move on random encounters needs to sit down and actually suffer through their creation.

I liked it. I'll probably move onto 3 tomorrow. Im gamed the fuck out.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:19 pm

Sounds like it'd be annoying.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:16 pm

Dragon Quest 3 is done. I didnt like it as much as 2 but thats purely a my own superficial tastes thing.

The game itself is probably straight up objectively better than 2 and features a lot of welcome gameplay fixes. Mages can actually get stronger thanks to the Intelligence stat now being a thing and you dont have to fuck around with item management as much thanks to a new infinite holding bag. Before it was like Suikoden 1 where you only have as much space as you have character's item pages and everything had to be swapped in and out of a specific character's page to use.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:24 pm

So what was better about 2 in your opinion?

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:55 pm

I dont even know. Pacing I guess. By the time I reached the second world map in 3 I just wanted it to be over.

Also they give you the airship equivalent and its useless within 15 minutes