Suikoden V discussion

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:59 pm

Joei wrote:and where the fuck is Leknaat. She should have appeared once i got the Rune/HQ

Sounds like Suikoden III.

(I guess she had an excuse then)

himurokoken wrote:No, the game is really good, it's just that the story lost it's touch once you got hq. It's gaining steam again right now though.

Sounds like Suikoden III.

Of course, Suikoden III was pretty damn good, so I'm just glad I'm not saying "sounds like Suikoden IV."

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:57 pm

Like I said to hkk... you're probably recruiting 9999 shit once you get HQ so it slows down.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:09 pm

That is true. It's not like it was COMPLETELY boring though..but the Beaver Lodge part felt like it could have been done better. The bandits in Sable part was handled well I think. I love Roy and his voice especially.

As I said, it's picking back up in full steam now [spoiler]Queen coronation[/spoiler]

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:45 pm

You know what's awesome? This game has opened up a LOT of speculation about Jeane.

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:47 pm

about jeane's sidequest

[spoiler] what does she say if you ask her what was in the chest?[/spoiler]

everytime i get a choice i get paranoid

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:55 pm

Yeah I don't know... I didn't pick that either.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:05 pm

Joei wrote:about jeane's sidequest

[spoiler] what does she say if you ask her what was in the chest?[/spoiler]

everytime i get a choice i get paranoid

You can still get her if you ask her what's in the chest. ANd it's a doozy too.

[spoiler]I think that place was that civilization that was destroyed by it's king with the sun rune. That's my theory. Jeane says if you ask what it was,"Something I forgot." That hole wasn't created until recently, so she definitely didn't go into the dungeon, put something important there, and leave or some shit. She's from there. This adds to the theory that Jeane is old as shit.[/spoiler]

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:08 pm

[spoiler]Thus making her a GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGILF (great-great-great-...-granny-ILF)

There's even more cryptic shit later, as you're probably aware.[/spoiler]

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:09 pm

No, I'm not aware.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:14 pm

well you'll see

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:19 pm

I want the ost. Hook me up with server u/p on irc.

Wow, I thought there were more Suikoden fans around.
Guess everyone's wrapped up in Kingdom Haato.

It's because I'm not there. That's why the thread is dead and you know it.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:20 pm

it's just your gs account
do you have flashfxp yet?

lmao

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:24 pm

no i don't, i'll install when i get home.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:24 pm

o i thought you were playing right now
i was screaming at you in irc haha

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:27 pm

how is the ost

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:21 pm

I will exact final retribution on you and cast your loathsome corpse into the lake.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:36 am

What?

Spoilers regarding IV and V:

[spoiler]I'm in the Island Nations / Falena border point. I keep noticing all of the references to Suikoden IV and I can't help but find them interesting.

Apparently, people have forgotten about Lazlo. Lino En Kuldes is now the real hero of that war with Kulook. Chisato's puppet show proves this even further, showing that people now think it was Flare, Lino's daughter, who defeated Brandeau, and obtained the Rune of Punishment. It's been so long since Suikoden IV, the truth has been distorted and hero long forgotten. This is not very settling, but really cool at the same time.

What did you guys think of this?
[/spoiler]

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:09 am

it's all part of history being distorted over time. i think it's good because it's realistic.

i never even finished 4. my armour and party were shit so i couldn't beat the last boss.....or take the ship anywhere

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:22 am

Yeah, that sounds good. Not that I ever intend to play IV anymore.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:28 pm

Joei wrote:it's all part of history being distorted over time. i think it's good because it's realistic.

i never even finished 4. my armour and party were shit so i couldn't beat the last boss.....or take the ship anywhere

Yeah man I didn't even bother trying to level up or anything, I just was like,"fuck this shit i'ma beat this.."

And it took me like 5 hours to beat the final boss. Hardest Suikoden final boss ever

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:41 pm

Joei wrote:it's all part of history being distorted over time. i think it's good because it's realistic.

i never even finished 4. my armour and party were shit so i couldn't beat the last boss.....or take the ship anywhere

I don't know what particularly you're talking about as I'm not reading spoilers, but duh that sounds like nothing new. They even did this in Suikoden III with regards to Suikoden II. They claimed that the State actually attacked the Unicorn brigade in the history.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:06 pm

Well..that was established in Suikoden II. Luca made them think City States attacked Jowston's Unicorn Brigade. It's just that it wasn't uncovered up or something.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:16 pm

Have you guys tried fishing yet?

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:19 pm

HOW DO I FISH

I want to recruit [spoiler]Retso[/spoiler] but how do I fish?

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:23 pm

himurokoken wrote:Well..that was established in Suikoden II. Luca made them think City States attacked Jowston's Unicorn Brigade. It's just that it wasn't uncovered up or something.

Wel, yeah. I suppose. Except it seems clear that a large number of people must have known what really happened. The research was poor or the source was biased. It's a nice touch at any rate IMO.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:27 pm

You don't fish with that guy, you fish with Subala.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:28 pm

Shit, I wonder what this Subala guy is because I havne't met him.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:28 pm

Bring Lun to Raftfleet and look around.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:32 pm

btw FINALLY the story picks up again

[spoiler]In Doraat the whole Alenia thing was cool[/spoiler]

What I like about SV is that there are plenty of dungeons but they're small as shit like the extremely awesome Dragon Quest VIII. After Digital Devil Saga, I can handle dungeon crawling, but other dungeons in other games just feel so obselete, small, and just not that interesting so I rush through them like pancakes on a Saturday morning.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:34 pm

did you like the

[spoiler]Jeane/Zerase bit?

[/spoiler]

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:35 pm

Yeah, but I didn't get to catch all of it.

[spoiler]Jeane said that she couldn't get the Sun Rune to work on Lim. And it SEEMED like Jeane knows Zerase? What do you make of the scene?

What was amazing to me was that Jeane was able to counter the Twilight rune. She doesn't have a True Rune so that makes her a pretty damn competent Rune Master. They weren't kidding, she knows her shit.[/spoiler]

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:43 pm

[spoiler]Well, it seems like there's a network between these uber-mages...

You have to notice how Zerase treats everyone like shit and is a complete spaz about the runes, yet when Jeane confesses that she simply wanted to see if she could mess with Sun/Twilight, Zerase is like "well... I guess it's okay if you do it."

Conclusion: Jeane pulls some serious, serious weight.[/spoiler]

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:44 pm

Yep.

[spoiler]Zerase is like the most mysterious character ever[/spoiler]

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:51 pm

Man I kind of wish there were more to do though. The minigames don't really reward you with uber prizes from what I've played of them.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:53 pm

as long as they're fun i don't mind.

Since I always try to get all 108 without a guide, I literally double my playtime, so I'm fine with what there is to do

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:16 pm

you know... i like how ign gave s5 8.2 and s4 7.9

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:10 pm

he thinks the beginning ruined the game...or some shit

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:39 pm

more ppl need to play this so it's not just 4 of us spamming up this thread

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:11 pm

Don't bother. They've given up on Suikoden because of IV.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:36 am

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmes ... c=27280176
WUT
nice 4/1 joke

BlageriN · Post by **BlageriN** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:37 pm

Doom wrote:Man I kind of wish there were more to do though. The minigames don't really reward you with uber prizes from what I've played of them.

haha yeah exact same feeling here.. just trying to research everyones background, and upgrade everyone's weapons

I still haven't found a way to make uber fast money other than fighting with norma + prosperity set.. i remember in S1, S2 there were minigames that would let you generate infinite amounts of cash haha.. havent found any yet in this one

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:30 pm

himurokoken wrote:Don't bother. They've given up on Suikoden because of IV.

I'll get to it after lent.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:43 pm

Get a Prosperity Rune too.

BlageriN · Post by **BlageriN** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:13 am

Finally completed it, kind of sad that it's over.. maybe I'll replay S2 again if I can find it just to refresh my memory

Regarding the final dungeon:
[spoiler]
Had LOTS of fun using the underpowered/underleveled characters in parties, some fights were challenging nonetheless

I only realized at the final battle that you could merge magic spells.. I was wondering where that feature went haha
[/spoiler]

Overall, I was pretty satisfied with how this one turned out!

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:02 pm

yay, now 2/4 people who are playing this have beaten it

hkk if you see this i need a favor from you asap (suikoden related) so contact me

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:18 pm

i play this in short spurts because the loading times piss me off - especially with battles.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:14 pm

Doom wrote:yay, now 2/4 people who are playing this have beaten it

hkk if you see this i need a favor from you asap (suikoden related) so contact me

what

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:55 pm

irc me you shit

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:46 pm

I am nearing the end of the game and I am starting to feel disappointed. The story line started out great to me, and once you got your HQ it went downhill from there. The villians aren't interesting, the plot feels rushed, it seems you're picking up the pieces 90% of the story instead of telling a grand political plot. It's a good thing the gameplay and characterizatoin are the best the series has had yet, but storywise I find it pretty damn weak.

People may wonder,"But what about that plot twist during Queen's Campaign?!!?"

Phht. Suikoden stories aren't based around plot twists.

Jeff 2G6 · Post by **Jeff 2G6** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:55 pm

I'm gonna agree with you there. I got my HQ about an hour ago game time and I'm starting to get bored. Hope it picks up.