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The RDM is reliving the original experience of going through the games via his children, and it's super fun so far.

You totally can get by with whips over rods in regular FFIV. By endgame Rydia is a nukemonster no matter what.

It's a shame you can't keep Yang around, though. Two handed with super high attack power is way better than stupid Edge.
In hardtype (probably also in easytype, though it doesn't matter as much), equipping a whip vs. equipping the best rod is a difference of something like ~6000 vs. ~9000 damage with Bahamut. The small benefit of being able to do somewhat damage and inflict paralysis with physical attacks isn't worth it.

If you save up weapons, Edge can do his share of damage by getting a few 9999 hits on Zeromus, but he's always the first to KO (sorry, swoon), because his HP is lower than Rosa's and he doesn't have high magic defense like the casters. Yang may not have terribly good defense either, but he's got very high HP and very high damage from regular physical attacks. :check
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RDM wrote: The RDM is reliving the original experience of going through the games via his children, and it's super fun so far.
Have they finished SoM yet?
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I should play SoM one of these days...

By the way, anyone play Secret of Evermore? I've heard it's not so good, but I thought it looked cool when I was a kid. Almost bought it instead of Chrono Trigger, but fortunately I made the morally correct choice there.
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I liked Secret of Evermore almost as much as Mana. Unsure if it's just because we were lacking in good RPG releases here. The SGUK entrance exam used to include having to list all of the different dogs in SoE :p
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Lord Golbez wrote:You never played FF4 or FF6 on SNES?
I played 4 on the SNES about a bajillion times. I used to farm Pink Puffs for funsies (never got a clock though - probably don't exist in the NA version!).
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I've never played either on a SNES. We were given Secret of Evermore and Mystic Quest instead.
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I enjoyed SoE, although obviously it was not as good as CT, etc.

I also enjoyed FFMQ when I was like 10/11. I did think SoM was more fun though, and obviously also preferred FFIV/V/VI, which I did play on the SNES.
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It was bizarre which games Square chose to release and which they didn't. Lasted right until the end of the PlayStation 1 generation (where they didn't bother with games like Xenogears and FFT but gave us Ehrgeiz and SaGa Frontier 2).
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They probably thought we were too dumb to enjoy a good RPG.

That being said, I remember trying to convince other teens to play FFVII when it was released, and many idiots thought it was boring, and would rather play Tekken instead. So I guess Square knew what they were doing, and they simply weren't that interested in niche gamers, back in the days when they couldn't rely on internet advertising to sell their games.

The thing that really confused me was the fact that CT never got released back then. Akira Toriyama being super popular all over Southern Europe, they could have sold the game just by making his name stand out on the packaging. :erm
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Yang's HP actually tops out at a pretty low level. Then his attack stat goes nuts. He's dropping double 9999s in random encounters long before anyone else even hits the damage cap (the RDM did a playthrough with a level up every fight Game Genie code way back in the day. Edward never gets better.)
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Calbrena wrote:They probably thought we were too dumb to enjoy a good RPG.

That being said, I remember trying to convince other teens to play FFVII when it was released, and many idiots thought it was boring, and would rather play Tekken instead. So I guess Square knew what they were doing, and they simply weren't that interested in niche gamers, back in the days when they couldn't rely on internet advertising to sell their games.

The thing that really confused me was the fact that CT never got released back then. Akira Toriyama being super popular all over Southern Europe, they could have sold the game just by making his name stand out on the packaging. :erm
I remember a guy in a shop telling a kid to buy Bloody Roar instead of FF7 because the fighting is better. People just didn't understand the genre.
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Damien wrote:It was bizarre which games Square chose to release and which they didn't. Lasted right until the end of the PlayStation 1 generation (where they didn't bother with games like Xenogears and FFT but gave us Ehrgeiz and SaGa Frontier 2).
Ehrgeiz is one of the best button mashers in history. It makes you feel super good about yourself no matter how little skill you have.
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Sounds like the perfect game for a 5-10yo kid then. :erm
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Tekken is garbage. Even as fighters go.
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I assume used Secret of Mana SNES cartridges are hella expensive.
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*checks eBay*

Emulator or Wii VC it is!
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Do you still have a working SNES, Fei? Actually, I think my SNES may still work, but it's either at my parents' house somewhere or one of my siblings has it. I haven't played it in years so can't confirm whether it works or not for sure.
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smeared ink wrote:*checks eBay*

Emulator or Wii VC it is!
I think someone mentioned a DS version as well?
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I've got a Secret of Mana cart but no SNES.
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Calbrena wrote:
smeared ink wrote:*checks eBay*

Emulator or Wii VC it is!
I think someone mentioned a DS version as well?
WTF? Was there? Must have.
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Lord Golbez wrote:
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smeared ink wrote:*checks eBay*

Emulator or Wii VC it is!
I think someone mentioned a DS version as well?
WTF? Was there? Must have.
Sadly, that's FAKE NEWS :sadtea
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Godammit Kellyanne! :frust
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I do have a working SNES! It's even hooked up. Damien, if your SoM is NTSC for some reason, I demand it. Er, request it.
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I think I'd have to buy new cables to hook up my SNES to a modern TV.
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Damien wrote:
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Emulator or Wii VC it is!
I think someone mentioned a DS version as well?
WTF? Was there? Must have.
Sadly, that's FAKE NEWS :sadtea
Damn fake news, I wish it was true. :(

My SoM cartridge is not NTSC but even better, it's in French. :p
No idea where it might be though, I don't know if it's at my parents or if my sister took it at some point.
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Oh, and SoM is on the App Store for €7,99?! Must be totally unplayable. @_@
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OMG I'd love a French RPG to play
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Well, you might want to check the App Store version then. I don't know about the version available in Canada, but the one sold on the French App Store is multilingual, the game is even available in Chinese. :erm
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I got/played the iPhone version back in 2010. Pretty awkward controls, but I managed to get through about half of the game.
My cart is UK PAL :p
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The RDM will never be parted from his SoM cart. SoM is teh best.
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FWIW I have too many good new games to play to be replaying ins ones that I've already played to death.
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I only played tiny bits of SoM at a friend's house as a kid.

And I'd never get the iOS version, there's no way I'd have the patience for that.
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It wasn't unplayable, just fiddly at times.
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Damien wrote:FWIW I have too many good new games to play to be replaying ins ones that I've already played to death.
This is probably true for me too. I have a backlog so steep I'll never get through it. Although some of those games aren't that good, so it doesn't matter as much.
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I've slowed down on my game purchasing recently, though I do still get a bunch of games to stream on Talking Real that I only get about 2 or 3 hours in to. Got other stuff like Disgaea 5 and Dragon Quest Heroes still sealed.
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I'm done with Disgaea games. I've never been a huge fan of their gmmicky style of strategy to begin with and I still have yet to get through both Disgaea 3 and D2. I'll hopefully go back to those and finish them, but after that I'm done with the series and tired of NIS altogether too.
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The newest game the RDM has played is Batman: Arkham Asylum. Maybe someday he'll try to catch the highlights of some of the newer generation games...but it's going to be a bit. Maybe if he sells a million books and retires in his thirties.
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The last game I was really playing was Undertale, and it was delightful, but I got distracted and haven't played it for many months now.
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The RDM doesn't even know what that game is. He can't be bothered to Google it, because Googling it doesn't help him win.
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Isn't Undertale pretty long?

EDIT: Just Googled, apparently it isn't at all. Is there something to it that makes you replay it a lot then? I haven't played Undertale, but those I know that have seemed to have been playing for ages.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it does different things upon replaying. For instance, near the start of the game you battle someone who has been kind to you, but you can finish the battle without killing her. I did kill her the first time and I felt bad so I restarted the game and did that part without killing her. But then a bad guy in the game mocked me and said he knew what I'd done, that I'd actually killed her before. :{
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smeared ink wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it does different things upon replaying. For instance, near the start of the game you battle someone who has been kind to you, but you can finish the battle without killing her. I did kill her the first time and I felt bad so I restarted the game and did that part without killing her. But then a bad guy in the game mocked me and said he knew what I'd done, that I'd actually killed her before. :{
It's like in animal crossing when Mr Resetti turns up. :ono
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That bad guy has you pegged, bro.
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Calbrena wrote:
smeared ink wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it does different things upon replaying. For instance, near the start of the game you battle someone who has been kind to you, but you can finish the battle without killing her. I did kill her the first time and I felt bad so I restarted the game and did that part without killing her. But then a bad guy in the game mocked me and said he knew what I'd done, that I'd actually killed her before. :{
It's like in animal crossing when Mr Resetti turns up. :ono
They nerfed Resetti in New Leaf. He doesn't show up and yell at you unless you specifically pay a whole bunch of bells to enlist his services.
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Haha XD
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The RDM could have sworn he replied a few minutes ago. Bah.
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It's ok, he's losing anyway.
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