Capcom Fighting Evolution

nomaru · Post by **nomaru** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:49 pm

opinions? likes? dislikes? aspirations?

i'm just happy to see another fighter coming our way with crossover characters. maybe i'm just a sucker for capcom games. really wish they'd do another streetfighter animation.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:26 pm

Dinosaur guy D;

im sorry, this is probably one of Capcoms last few attempts at milking the franchise before they drop it. They didnt even redraw the sprites or make new animations, they're just re-using the old ones, which is gonna be a majoy drawback to this game when you play CvS2 Guile vs. 3S Chun-Li, because you will be damn able to tell the difference in quality of animation of the sprite. Also, it doesnt seem like they're coming up with anything new and inovative... i wont be expecting much from this, so i might just be suprised, but im not holding my breath on this, for now GGXX#R is my top fighter, nothing beats it in style, balance, and fun.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:54 pm

Right now the word from beta tests here in the states and Japan have been pretty good, but not so much to the point of complete praise, merely that it's keeping it's self above water and providing a good expierence thus far.

The game looks a Mugen hack job (even though the backgrounds are gorgeous), I mean Demetri makes Morrigan look good in CvS2, and that's really fucking bad, but whatever.

I'd like to try out Ingrid, and with Felicia being in the game it's a definite that I'll be playing the game. I'm weary of Anarkis because he's got the tools to be top tier again, and the DS characters are supposedly still the better group to choose from thanks to all the tools they posess.

In the meantime, I'm playing EFZ and Melty Blood re.ACT so if Evolution sucks, I can fall back on 3S, #R, MvC2, CvS2, and the games mentioned above.

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:25 pm

I wasn't hyped about this game when news got out and I'm even less impressed with the game after seeing some footage of it. I wish Capcom would learn to remake their sprites for these compilations but they think cutting costs is more important than a quality product. The fact that each character plays like their original counter part sounds kind of stupid as it leaves too many possibilities for some unbalancing issues. As Mikey said, the Darkstalker characters seem to have the tools to be top tier characters.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:43 pm

Check out FD in SRK for a new vid, looks hot.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:47 pm

link please

Ikari · Post by **Ikari** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:34 am

I just want a Capcom vs SNK 3. Not SNK vs Capcom: Crap.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:10 am

I would prefer Sammy vs Capcom

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:27 am

You think capcom has bad habits of re-using sprites? Look at SNK (Playmore), they have been using same ones (and still are with atomiswave) for a looong time.

Grrrrrr...........

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:52 am

himurokoken wrote:I would prefer Sammy vs Capcom

If Sammy pulls this off right then it would make one amazing fighting compilation. I don't want to see a single character from the Street Fighter Universe as they have no place within the context of the game. Sammy should focus on the characters from Red Earth and Dark Stalkers.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:53 am

yea Sammy vs. Capcom is gonna be my last hope for the fighting game crossover world... because Sammy rocks with the sprites

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:57 am

Eh...SF characters would be out of place, but what about 3s characters? Haha I think they would fit right in. Also the sammy sprites rock, mostly because they are high res, but I love 3s sprites because of how any frames of animation they are, so beautiful to watch.

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:02 am

The only 3rd Strike characters that would remotely fit within Sammy's style would be Necro, Q, or Gill in which case I'd rather have them excluded from the game. I would be really happy if they added quite a bit of characters from Red Earth as they had some very interesting characters that would work really well. Not to mention that there were only 4 playable characters within that game.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:05 am

well, im sure (i.e. HOPE) that Sammy redraws all the sprites they plan on using, and not just rehash old Capcom sprites because, for one, that would look AWEFUL and would just spit in fighting game fans' faces. and i dont think the discussion centers so much about the animation of the characters, as the feel of them. Because SF chars would just seem out of place next to the GG cast, as well as being boring since they've been around forEVER. But more as to the feel of the character design. Speaking purly from design, DS characters would fit in a bit more, since they have more flair and are over all way sweeter looking...

i also DEMAND THE RETURN OF LILLITH!!!

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:18 am

I second the return of Lilith!

Ikari · Post by **Ikari** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:49 am

I don't care!

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:21 am

Sammy is developing this game correct? Similar to what capcom did for SNK characters (CVS2), Sammy I think will keep their current sprites (as they are great) and create their own Capcom sprites. In my opinion, that would be much better. If capcom is developing it, then we are in trouble. I do want ken, ryu, and akuma though, haha call me old fashioned

nomaru · Post by **nomaru** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:43 pm

fire2ash wrote:Sammy is developing this game correct? Similar to what capcom did for SNK characters (CVS2), Sammy I think will keep their current sprites (as they are great) and create their own Capcom sprites. In my opinion, that would be much better. If capcom is developing it, then we are in trouble. I do want ken, ryu, and akuma though, haha call me old fashioned

i agree on the ken, ryu, and akuma. especially akuma

Audiobully · Post by **Audiobully** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:30 pm

well, maybe Akuma could fit in... but not Ken or Ryu.

Maybe Blanka would fit too. Who knows?
I think Sammy should make Dante and other Devil May Cry characters ¶¦)

Maybe Nemesis from Resident Evil too

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:28 am

Gouki Gamer all the way

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:51 am

Ken is the shit. If he's not in it, I don't want to play it.

Gungrave · Post by **Gungrave** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:28 pm

I seriously doubt that Sammy would leave out Ken or Ryu in any kind of crossover game they would make for the 2D world. Ken and Ryu managed to be the very few that survived to see 3s after all. Whatever they finally decide to do with the game system to make it work, I'm positive it will be more than phenomenal. Sammy just plain rocks at making extremely high quality 2D fighters.

As far as Capcom Fighting Evolution is concerned, you could tell from the very first screen caps that it would be a festival of re-hashed sprites, with flashly super bars and backgrounds. The fans will still bleed for it and they'll make their money. It is kind of sad if it's the last game that they didn't put in any extra time for it. It just doesn't make any sense, since they put so much effort into games like Onimusha, Devil May Cry, and many of their other titles.

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:55 pm

I'm very hopeful for this, I just hope they have the right mix of characters. Ken and Ryu are fine, but putting in Dan, Sakura, Akuma, Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu, that-other-crazy Ken, etc.. that gets tiring. I won't mind if some of the mainstay characters aren't there, just as long as the gameplay is good...

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:58 pm

Akuma is necessary

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:16 am

I just don't see how any Street Fighter characters could fit in Sammy vs. Capcom.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:21 am

Katana would cuz he has a weapon

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:04 am

They wouldn't Killey. May on her own would probably crush the majority of the SF cast. It's doubtful that even Hugo can hold an anchor that large.

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:12 am

One Dragon Punch and that anchor is crushed in half~

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:16 am

I said majority, not entire.

Though if you were to take it further the DS cast would likely rip the GG cast a new one.

;p

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:07 am

DS ...

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:32 am

Doesn't matter because Akira owns you all anyway.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:34 am

I think that Dante should be in Sammy vs Capcom

Garbo · Post by **Garbo** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:53 am

I like how reading this thread for the first time, I read all at once all the differing opinions of the same people. It's almost as if you're just saying these things for the sake of saying them.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:01 am

Holy shit Garbo, you really are a moron.

No, I'm saying these things because I'm getting payed too.

Garbo · Post by **Garbo** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:41 pm

When you post on forums, one would generally assume that you say something to get a point across. On the other hand, most of these posts are providing opposite points from the same people, which leads me to think that they either keep changing their minds or they're just saying it because they have nothing better to do and feel like it's worthwhile to just post whatever even if it does contradict their previous post. HINT: SPAM DISGUISED AS INTELLIGENT POSTS

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:56 pm

j0hn Ayanami wrote:Doesn't matter because Akira owns you all anyway.

Are we making references to Rival Schools now? I keep trying to remember these character names within the Street Fighter universe.

Sammy should only draw characters from Capcom's more fantasy based fighters like Dark Stalkers (which they've already expressed great interest in) and Red Earth. I'm trying to remember any other fighting games that Capcom made that would work but I can't remember every fighter they made, which is a hard task in the first place. Maybe some pilots from Cyberbots but that would be stretching things a bit.

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:25 pm

It was a dual reference to Rival Schools and Virtua Fighter

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:11 pm

I've said this a million and one times but I really hope the secret characters include those Capcom's non-fighting game series $:\$

Breath of Fire: Ryu
Resident Evil 4: Leon
Devil May Cry: Dante
Megaman: Guts Man
Megaman Battle Network: Protoman
Breat of Fire: Slime
Dino Crisis: That Bitch
Viewtiful Joe: Yeah...

I think Leon (and maybe some of the bigger, bulkier BoF series characters) would fit right in among the bunch they have.

Does anybody know when the PS2 version of this game si out in Japan (as Capcom Fighting Jam).
I've read conflicting dates on gamefaqs, liksang, play-asia, the-magicbox and various other places.
Some say it's out next week at the same time as the arcade

I'm looking forward to this game probably more that I've ever looked forward to a fighting game before.
Marvel Vs Capcom 2 was fun and I still play it a fuckload.
This game looks as fun... it all relies on the hidden bits n bobs being good though...

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:36 am

I think Dante would fit well and I wouldn't mind seeing RE4's version of Leon in the game though I can't foresee how he would stack up or even play in a fighting game. You mention Ryu from BoF but which BoF are you referring to?

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:13 am

I think this fits here.

Does anyone else find SNK v. Capcom - Chaos an extremely hard game to play?

It seems like it is all about cancels...

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:17 am

I havn't touched the game once since it was release in the arcades.

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:22 am

I've played it twice with Ken and it's ridiculous. HP Dragon Punch.. people can recover if they are only hit with the first hit. The computer is insane at cancelling shit; Mr. Karate gets off these insane 16 hit combos pretty much any time you jump into the air.. it's so difficult to get inside to fight.

One thing I HATE about it is you have to hold down forward to full sweep, if you are holding back you just do a poke which doesn't give you any stun time.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:59 pm

Killey wrote:I think Dante would fit well and I wouldn't mind seeing RE4's version of Leon in the game though I can't foresee how he would stack up or even play in a fighting game. You mention Ryu from BoF but which BoF are you referring to?

Any or a new one even... they're all pretty much the same.
As long as he can turn into a big dragon, it's fine with me.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:45 am

SVC sucks man, don't even waste your time with it. Characters are unbalanced and it gets boring, QUICK.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:32 pm

Fighting Jam the arcade is out now.
I'll have to hunt it down in London next time I've got nothing to do

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:12 pm

fire2ash wrote:SVC sucks man, don't even waste your time with it. Characters are unbalanced and it gets boring, QUICK.

Are you talking about SVC Chaos? If so.. how right you are. Fucking SWEEP KICK cancels out my JUMP KICK.

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:57 pm

Mr. Karate owns though

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:44 pm

I wish the old Garou team worked on it. It could of been amazing. We aren't getting new sprites on the new format soon either, sigh.

j0hn Ayanami · Post by **j0hn Ayanami** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:58 pm

Hahaha. I just realized this.

"Wait a minute. If CvS2 has huge amounts of bias towards the Capcom characters and they are unbalanced.. wouldn't.."

*selects Terry Bogard*

MWHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Fucking owned.

I don't like how his Smash kick doesn't hit low though, so now I only have the Power dunk to hit crouchers from far away.

I suppose I could use his Ground Smash though. His Rising Attack is SO easy to pull off though, and I have been cancelling into Buster Wolf like crazy. It's awesome

I rolled up a 15 win streak before losing to the computer.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:21 pm

That's nice

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