Japanese gamers have bad taste version 1092803

[HKK]

Top 100 games list conducted by many many famitsu readers in Japan


1. Final Fantasy X (2001)
2. Final Fantasy VII (1997)
3. Dragon Quest III (1988)
4. Dragon Quest VIII (2004)
5. Machi (1998)
6. Final Fantasy IV (1991)
7. Tactics Ogre (1995)
8. Final Fantasy III (1990)
9. Dragon Quest VII (2000)
10. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)

11. Dragon Quest V (1992)
12. Far East of Eden 2 (1992)
13. Sakura Taisen (1996)
14. Dragn Quest IV (1990)
15. Final Fantasy V (1992)
16. Xenogears (1998)
17. Dragon Quest II (1987)
18. Sakura Taisen III (2002)
19. Kingdom Hearts (2002)
20. Streetfighter II (1992)

21. Super Mario Bros (1985)
22. Final Fantasy VIII (1999)
23. Toki Meki Memorial (1995)
24. Final Fantasy IX (2000)
25. Final Fantasy VI(1994)
26. Metal Gear Solid 3 (2004)
27. Valkyrie Profile (1999)
28. Chrono Trigger (1995)
29. Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
30. Dragon Quest (1986)

31. Zelda 3 (1991)
32. Final Fantasy X-2 (2003)
33. Resident Evil (1996)
34. Dragon Quest VI (1995)
35. F-Zero (1990)
36. Sakura Taisen II (1998)
37. Mother 2 (1994)
38. Mother (1989)
39. Virtua Fighter (1994)
40. Dragon Quest 5 (PS2 remake) 2004

41. Zelda Windwaker (2002)
42. Metal Gear Solid 2 (2001)
43. Animal Crossing (DS) 2005
44. Tales of the Abyss (2005)
45. Ogre Battle (1993)
46. Legends of Zelda (1986)
47. Virtua Fighter 2 (1995)
48. Mysterious Dungeon 2 (1995)
49. Sonic the Hedgehog (1991)
50. Metal Gear Solid (1998)

51. Pokemon Red and Green (1996)
52. Y's 1 and 2 (1989)
53. Romancing Saga (1992)
54. Toke Meke Memorial (PC Engine) 94
55. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (2000)
56. Resident Evil 2 (1998)
57. Tales of Eternia (2000)
58. Digital Devil Saga Megami Tensei II (1990)
59. Shin Megami Tensei (1992)
60. Final Fantasy II (1988)

61. Super Mario World (1990)
62. To Heart II (2004)
63. Final Fantasy (1987)
64. Puyo Puyo (1992)
65. Family Stadium Pro Baseball (1986)
66. Wizardry (1987)
67. Hokkaido Murder Mystery (1987)
68. Fire Emblem (1994)
69. Super Mario Kart (1992)
70. Dynasty Warriors 4 (2003)

71. Monster Hunter (2004)
72. Best Play Pro Baseball (1988)
73. Grandia (1997)
74. Resident Evil 4 (GC) 2005
75. Gran Turismo 4 (2004)
76. GTA: Vice City (2004)
77. Super Monaco GP (1990)
78. Torneko Mysterious Dungeon (1993)
79. Tales of Destiny (1997)
80. Streetfighter 2 Turbo (1993)

81. Dynasty Warriors III (2001)
82. Final Fight (1990)
83. Monster Hunter Portable (2005)
84. Final Fantasy Tactics (1997)
85. Minster Hunter G (2005)
86. Mysterious Dungeon 2 (2000)
87. Kung Fu (1985)
88. Toke Meke Memorial (Saturn) (1996)
89. Tales of Destiny II (2002)
90. Kamaitachi No Yoru (1994)

91. Sakura Taisen IV (2002)
92. Tales of Rebirth (2004)
93. Sim City (1991)
94. Saga 2 (1990)
95. Pro Baseball Family Stadium 87
96. Tetris (Gameboy) (1989)
97. Secret of Mana (1993)
98. Gradius (1986)
99. Super Mario Bros III (1988)
100. Resident Evil IV (PS2) 2005

[Pendragon]

Between Xenogears making top 20 and no FPS's you've just proven to me that they have much better taste then we do.

VP, SoM, CT and FF:T also making the list is just icing on the cake...

[HKK]

Only a Square Enix dick rider would say such a thing. The fact is, lack of variety. 3 non Japanese games, like 50% of the list is Square alone..you can tell Japanese gamers are jaded as fuck. Worse than American fans too.

[Pendragon]

As opposed to here where I'm sure we'd see Halo, Quake, Doom, Def Jam, Madden, a few WW2 shooters and some version of WWF...

Instead of %50 Squeenix it'd be %50 EA. Sorry man but FPS's and sports games just aren't my cup of tea, I'd take the Japanese list over our own anytime.

[Yuka]

Instead of %50 Squeenix it'd be %50 EA. Sorry man but FPS's and sports games just aren't my cup of tea, I'd take the Japanese list over our own anytime.

That'd be the best SG competition ever! "Win Famitsu's Top 100 games!"

I wish Xenogears was higher up

[HKK]

This list is way worse than anything Gamefaqs, the very bottom of the videogame community barrel, has ever produced, so...

For example, here's Gamefaqs's top 100 games list, as voted by its readers:
#1: Final Fantasy VII - PS
#2: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - N64
#3: Chrono Trigger - SNES
#4: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - SNES
#5: Super Mario Bros. 3 - NES
#6: Super Smash Bros. Melee - GC
#7: GoldenEye 007 - N64
#8: Metal Gear Solid - PS
#9: Halo: Combat Evolved - XBOX
#10: Final Fantasy III - SNES
#11: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - PS2
#12: Final Fantasy X - PS2
#13: Super Mario 64 - N64
#14: Resident Evil 4 - GC
#15: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - PS
#16: Kingdom Hearts - PS2
#17: Final Fantasy VIII - PS
#18: Starcraft - PC
#19: Final Fantasy Tactics - PS
#20: Diablo II - PC
#21: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - PS2
#22: Super Mario Bros. - NES
#23: Super Mario World - SNES
#24: Super Metroid - SNES
#25: Half-Life 2 - PC
#26: Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - SNES
#27: Grand Theft Auto III - PS2
#28: Pokemon Red - GB
#29: Metroid Prime - GC
#30: The Legend of Zelda - NES
#31: Half-Life - PC
#32: Xenogears - PS
#33: Doom - PC
#34: Tetris - GB
#35: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - PS2
#36: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - XBOX
#37: EarthBound - SNES
#38: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - GEN
#39: World of Warcraft - PC
#40: Devil May Cry - PS2
#41: Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - PS2
#42: Final Fantasy IX - PS
#43: Chrono Cross - PS
#44: Perfect Dark - N64
#45: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - GC
#46: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - N64
#47: Street Fighter II: The World Warrior - ARC
#48: God of War - PS2
#49: Half-Life: Counter-Strike - PC
#50: Final Fantasy II - SNES
#51: Soul Calibur - DC
#52: Secret of Mana - SNES
#53: Resident Evil - PS
#54: Fire Emblem - GBA
#55: Advance Wars - GBA
#56: Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings - PC
#57: Suikoden II - PS
#58: Mortal Kombat - ARC
#59: Pokemon Gold - GBC
#60: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos - PC
#61: Super Mario Kart - SNES
#62: Burnout 3: Takedown - PS2
#63: Contra - NES
#64: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn - PC
#65: Metroid - NES
#66: Pac-Man - ARC
#67: Deus Ex - PC
#68: Skies of Arcadia - DC
#69: Shenmue - DC
#70: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater - PS
#71: Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - NES
#72: Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - PS2
#73: Fallout 2 - PC
#74: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - GC
#75: Command & Conquer Red Alert - PC
#76: Final Fantasy - NES
#77: Dragon Warrior - NES
#78: Battlefield 1942 - PC
#79: ICO - PS2
#80: Call of Duty - PC
#81: Tales of Symphonia - GC
#82: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island - SNES
#83: Tekken 3 - PS
#84: Tecmo Super Bowl - NES
#85: Halo 2 - XBOX
#86: Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - PS2
#87: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - XBOX
#88: Gunstar Heroes - GEN
#89: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - GBA
#90: Unreal Tournament 2004 - PC
#91: Madden NFL 2004 - PS2
#92: Gran Turismo - PS
#93: Phantasy Star IV - GEN
#94: Shining Force II - GEN
#95: Vagrant Story - PS
#96: Grim Fandango - PC
#97: NiGHTS Into Dreams... - SAT
#98: Shining Force - GEN
#99: F-Zero - SNES
#100: X-COM: UFO Defense - PC

[WaWard]

let's just rejoice that Xenosaga hasn't made any of these lists.

[spoiler]FFX first ROOOOOOOOOOFLES[/spoiler]

[Questionmarktarius]

Pfft.

1. Tetris
2-100. everything else.

[Undine]

Pfft.

1. Tetris
2-100. everything else.

QFT

[TO]

japan is the hollywood of gaming. sure a lot of the best stuff comes from there, but they also produce BY FAR the worst games imaginable.

oh and by the way that list is absolute garbage :ruroken

[Seifer Almasy]

It's kind of interesting to see the huge culture gap here. Regardless of their questionable taste, I'd love to live in a society where videogames were as prevalaint as coka-cola. It must be such a trip to have that level of marketing and fan response for videogaming. I can't believe how well the DS is doing over there. Makes me kind of jealous seeing as I'd love to actually be able to use mine!

[Sephira]

I'm gonna have to agree with Pendragon here. >_>

Though, FFX at the top =

And I'm disappointed Vagrant Story isn't on there. Considering it is one of the "perfect" games of Famitsu, as well.

[Jeff 2G6]

Sorry but Madden is not on there, and I would definetely play Madden over 90% of those games consider Madden's replay value over some shit like Toke Meke Memorial whatever the fuck that is.

[Chi]

20. Streetfighter II (1992)
80. Streetfighter 2 Turbo (1993)

WTF? I'm pretty nostalgic, but World Warrior is NOT better than Championship Edition or Hyper Fighting.

and I would definetely play Madden over 90% of those games consider Madden's replay value over some shit like Toke Meke Memorial whatever the fuck that is.

And you are saying this without having ever played Toke Meke Memorial...? Ok.

[WaWard]

why the fuck should he

[Yuka]

Its a bit silly to compare two games if you've never played one of them.

[WaWard]

KH2 > XS2

[Doom]

is hkk pissed bcos no suikoden 2 awwwwwww

[TO]

Its a bit silly to compare two games if you've never played one of them.

no he's right that game is obviously a piece of shit

and no i haven't played it or even heard of it.

[HKK]

is hkk pissed bcos no suikoden 2 awwwwwww

[Jeff 2G6]

Sorry I don't need to play a piece of shit game to be able to critique it. People do it all the time.

[Chi]

Yes, you do need to play (or, at least have seen) a game to critique it, but then again you weren't actually critiquing it - just putting it down with no real reasons why (which people do indeed do all the time).

[WaWard]

Fuck, why the fuck should I play games I know I'll hate to make sure I'll hate it? WTF.....

It's like saying you Japanophile FPS haters need to play all of them to bash FPS, which you would never do. But then, when we do the same with a quirky japanese game that no one could possibly enjoy unless they are japanese (or like to pretend they are) - OH TEH NOES WE R MAKING UNFOUNDED CRITIQUE.

Bull fucking shit.

PS: Madden sucks.

[Chi]

You have no idea what games I like, tbh.

It is nothing like saying an FPS hater has to play every single FPS evAer before bashing them. It is the same as saying they should play e.g. Half Life 2 before bashing that particular game. Japfag FPS haters should play (or find out about) a game before saying how much it sucks, or should just shut the fuck up. What is the point of expressing a totally uninformed opinion? You don't even have to play a game to know you'll hate it, but you do need to actually know *something* about it, otherwise you are just talking crap.

[WaWard]

Ok, except where was I talking about you, specifically? It's not like it's the first time it's happened at SG.



OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS

[HKK]

rofl

everyone go play riddick. best fps of all time.

[WaWard]

nah, that's deus ex, but riddick is more deus ex than deus ex 2 was, so yeah play it.

[Damien]

I had a quick scroll through the list and I enjoyed the majority of them

[Pendragon]

rofl

everyone go play riddick. best fps of all time.

Yeah right, Goldeneye for the N64 is the best. In fact it's the only FPS that I've picked up more then once, and even then it was only because of the multiplayer.

Proximity mine's in the facility owns!

[Jeff 2G6]

O man you care that much about my opinion? QQ more.

[TO]

You have no idea what games I like, tbh.

It is nothing like saying an FPS hater has to play every single FPS evAer before bashing them. It is the same as saying they should play e.g. Half Life 2 before bashing that particular game. Japfag FPS haters should play (or find out about) a game before saying how much it sucks, or should just shut the fuck up. What is the point of expressing a totally uninformed opinion? You don't even have to play a game to know you'll hate it, but you do need to actually know *something* about it, otherwise you are just talking crap.

nope sorry you're wrong!

[Calbrena]

I agree with Chi tbh, how can you guys say a game is total shit if you know nothing about it?

Personnally the Tokimeki Memorial games are not appealing to me at all, but that's only because they forgot to include a lesbian French girl option

Anyway, seeing them in this list is not a surprise at all

[Damien]

Personnally the Tokimeki Memorial games are not appealing to me at all, but that's only because they forgot to include a lesbian French girl option

I like 1 Tokimeki Memorial game... Magical Dancing Vacation
I'm sure Lesbian French Girl would approve

[Chi]

You have no idea what games I like, tbh.

It is nothing like saying an FPS hater has to play every single FPS evAer before bashing them. It is the same as saying they should play e.g. Half Life 2 before bashing that particular game. Japfag FPS haters should play (or find out about) a game before saying how much it sucks, or should just shut the fuck up. What is the point of expressing a totally uninformed opinion? You don't even have to play a game to know you'll hate it, but you do need to actually know *something* about it, otherwise you are just talking crap.

nope sorry you're wrong!

NO U.

[Lord Golbez]

If you hate the Square Enix bias, you'd hate mine even more. The top 6 would all be Final Fantasy. Also, I'm sure the top 10 would all be (pure) Square.

Edit.: Oops. that's a lie. That was only true until Suikoden 2, which definitely beats out even some FF.

[Plaztik]

rofl FFVIII on #22? they must be kidding

[WaWard]

rofl

everyone go play riddick. best fps of all time.

Yeah right, Goldeneye for the N64 is the best. In fact it's the only FPS that I've picked up more then once, and even then it was only because of the multiplayer.

Proximity mine's in the facility owns!

The best FPS ever is most definitely not console exclusive (or Halo). Deus Ex wins.

[Kakeru]

I was playing riddick over a a friends place for 3-4 hours straight one night. >< fun... but damn was I home late...


So... this "Deus Ex" is good you say? Can you get it on any consoles? Does it have 2 player Co-Op?

[WaWard]

Nah. Deus Ex is more like a FPS/RPG Hybrid, that you can get for the ps2 (shitty port). It's a 2000 game, and if my laptop can run it decently, your pc probably can.

I have two copies of the game, because they gave it away with PC Gamer once~

[HKK]

But System Shock predated Deus Ex.

[Doom]

btw perfect dark > goldeneye and is the best console fps. fuck halo.

[WaWard]

But System Shock predated Deus Ex.

System Shock predated alot of FPSs, coming out in 1994 and all.
Doesn't change Deus Ex's greatness.

I have System Shock 2 on a CD somewhere, always meant to play it. Bioshock (successor made by a Looking Glass spin-off) looks bowntastic.

[HKK]

But isn't system shock like, the originator of rpg fusion with fps style gameplay? It seems to me Deus Ex is just something straight outta System Shock, hence the comparison.

[Patchingko]

Even hot big-boobie JP pornstars like FFX.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/aoi_sola/archives/2006-01.html

Seriously.

[fire2ash]

Counterstrike owns you all with its crack syringes it stabs in you every day if you play it.

I deleted that off my computer when steam came out...because I would play it for hours on end sometimes, and own everyone.

But yeah I've lost alot of hope in japanese market as of late, especially Square, which was my sole reason to support playstation products.

[mz]

Even hot big-boobie JP pornstars like FFX.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/aoi_sola/archives/2006-01.html

Seriously.

rofl

The only english I see on that page are the words "I LIKE SEX!"

I'd do her.

[HKK]

rofl rekki <3

[MegaManX]

Japanese list is shit.

That Gamefaq list is good, but where the fuck is Master of Orion?

Deus Ex should be higher.

Bio Shock will own all of you, even if you don't play it.

You don't know it, but System Shock 2 owned all of you already.

I'll be back in America is less then 50 days.

Later fuckers.

[HKK]

Is he in Iraq?

[MegaManX]

Korea.

It's like purgatory.