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omg a drama amv :O

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http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=48660

A little diddy that took me around 8 months.

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Go MAV!

*cheers*

I'm going to write my impressions later but you know I loved it since the first time I saw it a month or 2 ago. :E
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Is this the Naruto one HKK sent me the other day which is really long to a really boring song?
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He sent it to people...?

Yeah, I think that's the video.
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He sent it to me saying it was the best thing ever.


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No I didn't, I said this is a vid made by buddy. :erm
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Doesn't change the fact it's shit.
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Having not watched any Naruto at all any underlying sentiments are completely lost on me! However, I think this AMV does a good job of telling a sort of story in itself.

My nitpicks are the opening and closing scenes. In the opening, when the person is opening their eyes briefly a few times before waking up, those flashes start of almost in synch with the music and then drop out of synch. I'm guessing it's just straight footage, but personally I think it'd feel better if they were in synch with the music.

Also at the end there's an image of some creepy old hag. I didn't recognize him/her/it from the rest of the amv and so it was meaningless (as well as ugly and creepy :erm).

Not bad, I say! :D
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Vibing_V wrote:Also at the end there's an image of some creepy old hag. I didn't recognize him/her/it from the rest of the amv and so it was meaningless (as well as ugly and creepy :erm).
That creepy old hag was Orochimaru. He appeared several other times during the vid. The significance is that the person who's eyes were closing at the end (because the person is dying) is the Third Hokage, Orochimaru's teacher. If you look closely you'll notice between blinks the "old hag" image changes into a young boy. Spoiler: Orochimaru kills the Hokage. Even though he was betrayed by his pupil, he still remembers the better times.

I personally loved this vid. I much prefer it to some random action vid. I think you did great, Mav.
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Holy shit, anime music videos have come a long, long, long way. Being a huge fan of Naruto, I got a lot of the story elements.. damn good. Although I think the focus on the Haku/Zabuza thing is a bit overdone.. most of the Naruto videos I've seen deal with that.

Great use of effects.
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yeah, I tried not to go over the Haku/Zabuza opus too much. But since I had a whole stanza dedicated to that I had little choice. :(

Thanks for the critique, by the way. I placed in the top 10 out of 42 at the convention. :>
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Maverick wrote:yeah, I tried not to go over the Haku/Zabuza opus too much. But since I had a whole stanza dedicated to that I had little choice. :(

Thanks for the critique, by the way. I placed in the top 10 out of 42 at the convention. :>
Really? How did you do a lot of those effects and what have you? That was damn cool... I remember videos never had those kinds of special effects in them before :( It was just slices of video.
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Adobe Premiere Pro...

...I didn't necessarily need After Effects, since my effects were mostly basic (although I do own After Effects). :shades
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no name wrote:I personally loved this vid. I much prefer it to some random action vid..
Well said.
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The music made it seem like it was dragging on for longer than it was.
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mav is awesome with special effects... better than any other amv creator i've seen so far, this video (if it's still the same as when i saw it a while ago) is really slow at at the beginning, but i think the end really picks up with the orochimaru vs. third scences
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Nice effects. I didn't think the "love" character bit was necessary, and I almost always nitpick about selections in AMVs... but yeah, very nice regardless.
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The link isn't working for me. :(
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That's a shame, since I just tried it right now and it worked. :/
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yup
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I keep getting a 404 error. It's probably the damn firewall here.

Edit – It worked today so I was able to get my hands on it. I like it a lot, definitely ranks among some of the top Naruto AMVs. The video is really defined by the song which gives the video a sad/depressing feeling, for better or worse. The only thing I disliked was when a black line would blink white. I don’t think it exactly fit, and seems almost off.

I’ve had a few music video ideas, but don’t know the first thing about their compilation or where to start. Did you use Adobe Premiere Pro to assemble everything and not just the effects?
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TheDarkOne wrote:mav is awesome with special effects... better than any other amv creator i've seen so far, this video (if it's still the same as when i saw it a while ago) is really slow at at the beginning, but i think the end really picks up with the orochimaru vs. third scences
I added a few white bars and fixed the drop shadow bug with the rectangles with Haku. Oh and I added some drum effects at "She might." :>
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Ass. You didn't tell me.
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you got the same version they did. :ruroken
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I'm definately gunna check this out in a couple hours (Damn ISP giving me crap about bandwidth usage >.<) Although I'm not a fan of anime *dodges bricks* I'm a large fan of music vids in general whether they be true AMV's or ones that deal in game footage/movie footage or anything else.
Should be interesting.
I'll edit this post later after I give it a look see.
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Alright well after watching it, the editor had some very nice effects throughout the vid. The Quality was generally good, save for a little jerkiness in some of the seperate framed sections. In the end I believe this is a solid average video. The reasons why I see it as such is firstly because the editor, while using great effects, fails to really have them match the pace of his video. At times the effects used are bang on, however I noticed that more often than not the effects, while possibly making a connection with the lyrics, either didnt match the timing of the music as well as it could have or they just didn't seem to fit well in general. the eye candy was great, but unfortunately in this case it hindered as well as helped.

Secondly, especially near the end I found that the clips and clip placement were way too fast to match the slower pace of the music. It just seemed odd to be listening and trying to make a connection with the music watching fast scenes or seeing a bunch of clips thrown at me in a short amount of time or having effects that were just too fast for the music. The thing about music choice is, if you want a slower vid you need to match the tempo with the same stype of clips or a slower clip placement to add meaning to the lyrics. Which brings me to lyric sync. Although I found some here and there, mostly with some of the chorus lines, there just wasn't enough to get me to feel a connection with the story the editor was trying to tell. Physically or metaphorically. There weren't many times where I could say or feel, "that was shown or explained perfectly" And no, it doesn't need to be spelled out, but still a sense of where the editor is trying to make some sort of connection should be evident at some point. This is especially crucial if making a slower more dramatic vid. Unfortunately more connections were missed or not made as opposed to the opposite.
And lastly was just file size. 84 megs for only a 4+ min vid? I assume that because of all the effects used that could have brought the size up a bit. I guess a bit of it also depends on framerate etc etc. But I figured it would have been a bit longer at that size.

Anyhow, the effects were certainly great, but they seemed to be more of the focus of the show. And although effects can really make a vid, it didnt help as much in this one. Still it was a solid average output. Since I havent seen this editors previous works I couldn't say how this stacks up compared, but thats my take on it. Keep up the good work.
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Raistlin wrote:Secondly, especially near the end I found that the clips and clip placement were way too fast to match the slower pace of the music. It just seemed odd to be listening and trying to make a connection with the music watching fast scenes or seeing a bunch of clips thrown at me in a short amount of time or having effects that were just too fast for the music.
It's called action sync; or trying to match the beats to visual hits caused by effects or in the anime. What do you want me to do? Place a long scene that doesn't synch up at all? That doesn't match the video. It isn't tempo you're talking about, it's mood. And I agree with you on that fact.
Raistlin wrote:Although I found some here and there, mostly with some of the chorus lines, there just wasn't enough to get me to feel a connection with the story the editor was trying to tell. Physically or metaphorically.
I suggest watching the anime then. All the characters promising to be better fits with "what I used to be will pass away and then you'll see." That was the just of my video. Although I could've failed my editing like you said.
Raistlin wrote:84 megs for only a 4+ min vid? I assume that because of all the effects used that could have brought the size up a bit. I guess a bit of it also depends on framerate etc etc. But I figured it would have been a bit longer at that size.
Spoken like someone who truly doesn't know how to encode. Sure fansubs average 175 mb at 20 minutes... but that isn't necessarily good quality. And effects don't really have anything directly to do with it. Just noise. I had a large portion of noise as well as green tint as part of my mood setting in the beginning (for some reason green+noise worked there, in my opinion), and noise compresses poorly (big file sizes) as well as the green makes files bigger (as green has the most bits processed for it- red has less and blue has the least. Back when video compression was trying to be made plausible they reduced the bits distributed by color depending on which color the human eye noticed the least).

But! I would like to thank you for watching this video. :)

(yes, the rest was edited. I had to go somewhere).

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Kokaku wrote:I’ve had a few music video ideas, but don’t know the first thing about their compilation or where to start. Did you use Adobe Premiere Pro to assemble everything and not just the effects?
I edited it entirely in Adobe Premiere Pro, and used Jasc Software Paint Shop Pro to draw the bars and other foreign artifacts. The effects and progression of the video was made entirely in Premiere using the bars made in PSP to block over aliased edges.

Sorry for being so damn late. >_>
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