Guilty Gear XX

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:13 am

since im a total whore for the game, and i know a few here that are aswell.. i thought i'd make this... share your hype for coming GG games, hatred for Isuka, and strats for your chars, who's your best? favorite combos? favorite chars? and possibly GG story line... something i would like to get other ppls questions and answers on; and maybe even victory stories.

images are welcome too :E

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:49 am

omg win.

I need to start playing GGXX again...

I fucking hate how Xbox got GGXX#Reload and ps2 got shafted ;(

My favorite character to use would probably be Chipp. He's just so fun to fuck around with, and EX Ky is fun too. Even though Potemkin is strong as fuck, he's just not my style, I can't STAND slow ass characters like him in fighting games.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:01 am

I went to my local arcade an played GG Isuka. Much vomiting followed. Even in theory the "turn around" button and two plane system is SHIT. Bleh.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:03 am

Yeah, that game sucks ass.

But let's not get into that, let's talk about GGXX. :>

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:51 am

Robo-Ky is taking some time to get used to, but he's too fucking awesome not to play with. Right now my main is Ky and then Robo.

I'm trying to nail this dust though.

S, HS, S, P, S, P, S, jc. S, HS, 623+S.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:09 am

Cid wrote:I went to my local arcade an played GG Isuka. Much vomiting followed. Even in theory the "turn around" button and two plane system is SHIT. Bleh.

yes Isuka is quite vomit inducing, i played it at the pizza place here, omfg, Johnny and Slayer = USELESS!!! its bullshit, cuz you fight multiple ppl all their combos are utterly garbage, cuz if you start it, they'll just hit you out of it... D:

himurokoken wrote:omg win.

I need to start playing GGXX again...

I fucking hate how Xbox got GGXX#Reload and ps2 got shafted

My favorite character to use would probably be Chipp. He's just so fun to fuck around with, and EX Ky is fun too. Even though Potemkin is strong as fuck, he's just not my style, I can't STAND slow ass characters like him in fighting games.

yea PS2 should have gotten Sharp Reload

but i have it for PC, and my friend has it for his jap PS2, so this school year will be filled with long nights procrastinating on papers and playing GGXX#R

Leftover wrote:Robo-Ky is taking some time to get used to, but he's too fucking awesome not to play with. Right now my main is Ky and then Robo.

I'm trying to nail this dust though.

S, HS, S, P, S, P, S, jc. S, HS, 623+S.

get em in the corner and just false f.HS the ball fist thing 4 times

that's like half a life bar. And Ky's easiest and most dmging dust look is:

D(Hold up), S, S, S(let go of up), P, S, P, S [pending on your possition you can do another P, S] jc. S, HS, 623+HS

another good combo for ky is: Grab (as sword hits)> RC> S > jc.K, S, jc.S, HS, 623+HS.

Also, on Ky, if you ever do any ground gattlings, always end it with c.D, and then do a 236+HS for extra pressure

Man i've missed GG talk <3 if anyone wants more strats and/or combos on characters, i know a little bit about most everyone and am glad to help out

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:59 am

GGXX#R for pc?!

ElFenrir13 · Post by **ElFenrir13** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:16 pm

I have to get more into these games. I thought it was clever how all of the characters were named after heavy metal bands and members(Ky, Chip Z Nuff, Axl, Testament...), its the 'metal' game and i think me and the crew need to play it more!

I was a little turned off at first but after i fooled around with it more it sort of sank in more for me, so it was pretty coola fter that, i just gotta play more of them.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:12 pm

GG is by far one of the most superior fighting games out there, if it hadnt been for that Isuka crap, i think the legacy would have been perfect

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:10 pm

to what DO said
GGXX is a very well balanced fighter that has tons of depth thanks to RCing and Bursting. Right now my best characters are Testament and Ky but I can pretty much use anyone fairly proficiently(with teh exception of Faust and Axl). Testament is my favorite character.

Mikey:
Ky is a huge rushdown character, in my opinion and you should never let up in your offense. You should master FRCing his sliding kick and heavy slash fireball. Some of my offensive techniques are run up d.p,s.k,s.s,f.k,d.p,d.D if they block that then finish with a slash fireball. However, if you catch them with the crouching DUST than follow up with the hs fireball slightly before they get up. They are forced to block the fireball and you can rush in for another offence.
My favorite combo is f.p,s.sx2,qcf.k,RC on the slash,run d.p,s.s, j.k,s,j.s,dp.s.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:26 pm

The third set of P, S actually kicks in the damage scaling for some reason, and leaves you dealing less damage. There's another one along the lines of s.D, j.S, pause, j.D, j.S, j.HS, 623+FS but it's only a few points more then s, hs, s, p, s, p, s, 623+HS.

I'm fucking around with Anji, but I have Baiken to screw with too. Honestly I play Ky defensively (not always) but he's more or less got the tools to handle most everyone so rushdown is only needed after knockdown.

Tortoise · Post by **Tortoise** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:47 am

Button-mashing for GG!!!

Son-kun · Post by **Son-kun** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:53 am

What's Sharp Reload? Is that the Korean version with the awesome fucking music?

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:01 am

no Sharp Reload, or #Reload, is basically GGXX but with some graphics tweaks, and TONS of move tweaking, FRC timing, and the likes of that, as well as Robo-Ky being an ACTUAL character. If it's the Korean verison it will usually say Guilty Gear XX#R Korean! always having that little "korean" just below the game title

EDIT: Also Anji, if you can get it off, its a nice switch em up if you fight turtles, d 214+P> K >jc.k,S,HS,D nifty little combo, there's more that you can do with that too, but i dont remember all of it, my friend Kevin has a MEAN anji. And Testament, you gotta be 3/4 to the wall, S,HS>Gravedigger>RC>D>Gravedigger, wall bounce, S>gravedigger>Switch sides>K, jc.K>D>gravedigger ... or some other varriation on that depending how close you are to the wall testament is all about the wall bounces

EDIT2: watch out possible spoiler!!! if your a moron!

Ole Kentucky Shark · Post by **Ole Kentucky Shark** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:20 am

I haven't played Isuka, but motherfucking shit, GGXX is the best damned fighting game I've seen in eons.

The characters have SO MUCH personality, its incredible. The weakest characters (in terms of personality) in the game are the two generic chinese warriors, and even their attacks can be dazzling.

Zappa, despite his useless against an effectively quick person (EVEN IN EX MODE), is my favorite character in a fighting game ever.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:39 am

ok Jam is one of the generic chinese warriors... who's the other one? cuz Jam's the only Chinese char in the game...

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:43 pm

Baiken or Anji possibly?

Zappa can handle quick characters. He just needs the right summon for it. That's it really. I mean summon, sweep, RC, summon is instant Roah anyway, so there goes your rushdown.

A friend of mine got second place in the monthly tourney we had last month with Zappa. Quite a sight. Guy's got infinites and everything.

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:15 am

I use to play with Zappa a lot and I do admit he's got the tools to take down some of the higher tier characters but he is a very high maintenance character. I had a combo that did 80% damage if you had the Ex-Raijin summon and once you have that summon the match is yours.

DO:
Testaments most damaging combo is the wall bounce grave digger but that is hardly the basis of his gameplay. Testament is all about mind games and traps followed by some quick punishing. FRCing his E-X-E beast special puts a constant pressure game on the opponent and then throw in his high-low mind games and traps afterwards and you've got a lot to handle.

Ethereal · Post by **Ethereal** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:28 am

I really felt a connection with Bridget. :)

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:27 am

Not owning a PS2 I never have and probably never will play a GG game. I WILL say however, that the soundtracks FUCKING ROCK MY SOCKS OFF.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:34 am

Killey wrote:I use to play with Zappa a lot and I do admit he's got the tools to take down some of the higher tier characters but he is a very high maintenance character. I had a combo that did 80% damage if you had the Ex-Raijin summon and once you have that summon the match is yours.

DO:
Testaments most damaging combo is the wall bounce grave digger but that is hardly the basis of his gameplay. Testament is all about mind games and traps followed by some quick punishing. FRCing his E-X-E beast special puts a constant pressure game on the opponent and then throw in his high-low mind games and traps afterwards and you've got a lot to handle.

see that's where you're actually wrong.. i've seen high tier play testament, and you'd THINK its about taps, but nets are used mainly offensively, and no one gives a shit about the tree, the tree is only used to humiliate your opponent, it IS about FRCing the EXE beast yes, but you do that so you can net > wallbounce

Leftover wrote:Baiken or Anji possibly?

Zappa can handle quick characters. He just needs the right summon for it. That's it really. I mean summon, sweep, RC, summon is instant Roah anyway, so there goes your rushdown.

A friend of mine got second place in the monthly tourney we had last month with Zappa. Quite a sight. Guy's got infinites and everything.

Baiken and Anji are japanese
Chipp is American
Sol is unknown
Ky is FRENCH!?!?!
Bridget is British
SLayer is from Transelvania
Axl is acutally NOT british, despite his shirt
those are all that i remember off the top of my head...

and yes Dave, GG soundtrack rocks, the Korean version is just as/if not better!!!

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:25 am

TheDarkOne wrote:
Killey wrote: and yes Dave, GG soundtrack rocks, the Korean version is just as/if not better!!!
I consider them equally excellent in different ways.

Where's the Faust love?

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:40 pm

DO:
I have a couple of high tier Testament vids as well and the majority of them focus on pressuring the opponents with the traps so that they can setup the FRCing EXE beast rushdown/trap/mindgames. The wall bounce combo is Testaments most damaging combo and yes, you'll want to incorporate a strategy to get that combo in but it doesn't mean your whole focus of the match is to get that combo in. Testament has enough tools to go an entire match without using the wall bounce combo. It's just wiser to to use everything at his disposal.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:56 pm

Everyone's goal is to get the other guy into the corner, so you can start doing your stupid dust loop shit or something.

I mean who doesn't have it?

Sol has it.
Ky has it.
Axl has it.
I-no has it.
Anji has it.
Baiken has it.
May has it.
Millia has it.
I believe Johnny has it.

It's all gay.

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:58 pm

Testament is just insane.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:06 pm

Leftover wrote:Everyone's goal is to get the other guy into the corner, so you can start doing your stupid dust loop shit or something.

I mean who doesn't have it?

Sol has it.
Ky has it.
Axl has it.
I-no has it.
Anji has it.
Baiken has it.
May has it.
Millia has it.
I believe Johnny has it.

It's all gay.

umm... no? none of those but Sol have a Dust loop, the only person that can even come close to a dust loop you didnt even list, and thats Eddie.

also, that couldnt be more wrong for Millia, Baiken and Anji, also Slayer's combos get severely goofy in the corner. I'm sorry, but you are just flat out wrong. At least on the characters i meantioned, i dont know enough about I-No, May or Axl

Dave wrote:
TheDarkOne wrote: and yes Dave, GG soundtrack rocks, the Korean version is just as/if not better!!!
I consider them equally excellent in different ways.

Where's the Faust love?

Faust is the shit, S, HS > 236+S > RC >run up K, jc.K,K, jc.S,HS ownz!

Audiobully · Post by **Audiobully** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:57 am

This game indeed rocks.
And I just bought a shiny brand new copy of Guilty Gear X2 on Ebay.
Oh joy.

My main characters are May and Dizzy

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:30 am

Dizzy is fun

i dont know any May tho, this is ube simple Dizzy:

standing Slash, crotching Heavy Slash > 236+Slash or heavy dont remember, whichever one is the blue spike, FRC > run in K, jc.whatever you want... i dont remember the rest, but just the s.S, c.HS > Spike = tons of pain

Killey · Post by **Killey** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:02 pm

Dizzy is tons of fun and I use her once in a while as a way to throw off people who are use to my Testament tactics.

Wouldn't it be better to continue the Ice spike FRC chain than to jump cancel afterwards? You've already done plenty of damage after three chains of that. Her corner dust combo does good damage as well.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:04 pm

like i said... i dont quite remember what to do after the FRC spike

... i never actually played dizzy, i just know this cuz i've seen the combo like 847584 times when playing my friend Kevin... his Venom and Johnny are quite amazing as well... as is his Anji

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:13 pm

I've seen and had all those characters corner loops done on me, so while it's not Sol dust loop gay, it's gay enough not to tech out of it. I mean the worst on there is Ky, who at most gets two reps.

Which means it's still gay.

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:13 pm

What?

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:18 pm

Leftover wrote:I've seen and had all those characters corner loops done on me, so while it's not Sol dust loop gay, it's gay enough not to tech out of it. I mean the worst on there is Ky, who at most gets two reps.

Which means it's still gay.

obviously you have not quite mastered air recovery yet... and "two reps" does NOT constitute a dust loop.. a loop is literelly an infinte that can NOT be broken... and only Sol has that... the others have a few dust repetitions, where you can get in a few dusts, but that does not constitute a loop

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:30 pm

Quit the smug attitude DO, I've played enough of the game to know what I'm talking about. Infinites, constituting, whatever. IF you can get more than one damn dust in and it's in the corner, it's a loop. Two reps, fourty, whatever.

$:\$

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:32 pm

You guys sound lots of fun to play against.

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:36 pm

You try playing against one of the best GGXX/#R players in the nation every month and see how you feel when Millia spanks you.

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:38 pm

I imagine you play the game with a constant constipated look on your face

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:41 pm

More or less, though I usually bite my tongue somewhere amist the constipation. I mean sometimes I just can't shake her off! I have to follow her around the screen or else I'm done for.

:(x2

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:18 pm

Leftover wrote:Quit the smug attitude DO, I've played enough of the game to know what I'm talking about. Infinites, constituting, whatever. IF you can get more than one damn dust in and it's in the corner, it's a loop. Two reps, fourty, whatever.

$:\$

alright i'll quit, but seriously, saying that a loop is only two reps is just wrong...

and most of these two hit "loop" (with the exception of Eddie and Sol) require FRC or RCing... i know the one your talking with Baiken, its the only combo i know with her:

c.D>236+K, jc.S, D > FRC > Air Dash > (S), D [the extra slash is if they're too far away, cuz the dust has short windup]

that's two dusts... so is that a loop? i just think your being very broad with your definition of what a loop is...

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:55 pm

HEAVEN OR HELL!

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:55 am

This is off the topic, but I got owned by one of the best SFA3 players in the nation, but guess what...this player is a "she." Interesting how one of the top SFA3 players is a she, god did she hand my ass to me, she knew every little trick. Then I saw her on kalleria, and she told me there is a whole SFA3 clan composed of only girls, who are GOOD!
Although nobody likes to be raped by a girl (honestly I didn't mind, i don't play SFA3 very often), there is nothing hotter than a clan of japanese schoolgirls who own u at SFA3

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:58 am

wtf?! why didnt you post that in the SF thread?!?!

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:35 am

lol!

I dunno I think its because I heard someone talking about how they get owned by the best players in the country for GGXX.

TheDarkOne · Post by **TheDarkOne** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:02 am

you said she was the top for SFA3 ;{

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:09 am

Oh boy! Guilty Gear double "Zex." I wonder when they'll have Guilty Gear Triple "Zex."

Audiobully · Post by **Audiobully** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:40 am

Lord Golbez wrote:Oh boy! Guilty Gear double "Zex." I wonder when they'll have Guilty Gear Triple "Zex." :l

Guilty Gear pr0n :check

fire2ash · Post by **fire2ash** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:34 pm

Yeah it just reminded me of getting owned....By a girl!

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:43 pm

Here:

http://www.evo2k.com/tournament/games/p ... ?game=ggxx

You see that second guy? Kono?

That's the kid I play every month, and once a week in other games at Chinatown Fair.

His Millia scares the bejesus out of me. If I can ever get tape it I'll u/l it for you guys. Still a cool guy though, mad nice to talk to.

:S

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:23 pm

Leftover · Post by **Leftover** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:00 pm

HOW AMAZINGLY YOU PORTRAY YOUR GUILTYNESS DAMIEN!

O_O!!!!!!!!!

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