The Fall of the Roman Empire

Trevelyan · Post by **Trevelyan** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:17 pm

discuss

Jeff 2G6 · Post by **Jeff 2G6** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:18 pm

Hail Caesar

Internet Champ · Post by **Internet Champ** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:20 pm

remember that time I shampooed your back hair?

that whole time I was thikning about the profound connection lead poisoning had with the fall of the western empire

heavy shit, dude

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:22 pm

It looked nasty

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:34 pm

The Roman empire did not fall necessarily because of Caesar. It was mainly that after the Pax Romana period of peace, all farmers had been seeking pleasures and digging up the land to make more money for themselves, Visigoths (barbarians) started to be included in society as well as within the military, Bread and Games organizations were set to take away from the pain of life but did not help its condition, and the rich and the poor had a well defined unbalance of wealth that could not be satiated either way without a big downfall.

Rome basically met its third generation, whose soldiers were no longer as lethal and Barbarians were hired to fight instead. These barbarians were to be the people that would reign the lands of western Europe following the fall of Rome, separated into groups such as Visigoths, Franks, Lombards, etc. But economically speaking, the wealthy in Rome by this time were corrupt, and nothing could be done to help the poor, meaning that a large majority of the civilization could not survive from the government (and the government just gave them weekly passes to colliseum fights and free food, great but hardly enough to keep millions alive).

Rome's sophistication thereafter declined to the point that no one could even remember how a road was built, and only Barbarian tribes ruled the lands of western Rome. However, in eastern Rome (From Greece and eastward) a new civilization had formed after the fall, Byzantium. Some say that these were the Romans that didn't fall, but this really isn't all that true. I forgot how they were more advanced than the average barbarian, but their architectural and art styles are completely different after a very short period after Rome's fall. This means it couldn't have originally been Roman.

As for the barbarians, the Franks would unite under the Pope only to fall due to Charlemagne's 3 sons being morons with the land. Soon, however, France and England would rise up after much time (and I'd assume they'd learn more) and the middle ages would begin.

Undine · Post by **Undine** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:41 pm

Those ancient greeks sure were crazy!~

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed May 11, 2005 10:50 pm

What you should really be talking about is the Rise of the Roman Empire III

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Wed May 11, 2005 11:38 pm

so do you make this thread every time you come back from the dead, trev?

isildur · Post by **isildur** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:30 am

Hey guys, check out Mr. Longpost up there.

Everyone knows Jesus conquered the Romans.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:11 am

I think it fell because in my past lives, I became a Roman high administrative, and because the emperor didn't care, I renamed it the Tea Empire.

Undine · Post by **Undine** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:11 am

Jesus brought the funk.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:33 am

isildur wrote:Hey guys, check out Mr. Longpost up there.

Everyone knows Jesus conquered the Romans.

Whatever your religious beliefs that kind of IS true. Granted, not in his lifetime (here I define lifetime as time of bodily presence on earth), but you know what I mean.

Abe · Post by **Abe** » Thu May 12, 2005 3:49 am

.... biblethumper
jesushugger

isildur · Post by **isildur** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:33 am

The Romans asked WWJD and fell down.

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Thu May 12, 2005 8:22 am

silly Romans

fenroar · Post by **fenroar** » Thu May 12, 2005 8:31 am

you just made a history major's heart stop :(

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:52 am

Damien wrote:

Isn't that a picture of the conflict caused by the kidnapping of the Sabines women by Roman settlers ? Then it's the beginning of the story, not the end.

Anyway, concerning the fall, two words : christianity, and saturnism

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:20 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:
Damien wrote:
Isn't that a picture of the conflict caused by the kidnapping of the Sabines women by Roman settlers ? Then it's the beginning of the story, not the end.

It's the first picture google image search came up with when I entered the title of this thread.
If it were a picture of Danni Minogue, I would have still posted it in this thread

TO · Post by TO » Thu May 12, 2005 10:04 pm

The Holy Roman Empire was neither Roman, nor an Empire. Discuss.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:48 pm

The Holy Roman Empire had sawy over multiple nations. i do believe it qualified as an empire. Further, regardless of where the emperors resided, much of its power base lied in Rome. I disagree.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:50 pm

I hear Rome wasn't built in a day.
Discuss~

Seifer Almasy · Post by **Seifer Almasy** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:57 pm

Damien wrote:
It looked nasty

Weird, I had to draw that randomly for an art class last year . . . I picked it out of a pile of calendar pages with ranodm german artists or something like that.

Magus416 · Post by **Magus416** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:15 pm

Caesar dies.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:16 pm

Magus416 wrote:Caesar dies.

Mark your spoilers

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:24 am

Damien wrote:I hear Rome wasn't built in a day.
Discuss~

I wonder if they had to pull in independent contractors?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:19 am

I'd say there were a few cowboy builders in on it.
They probably gave an estimate of a grand and charged 2

Jeff 2G6 · Post by **Jeff 2G6** » Sat May 14, 2005 1:13 am

The Empire Strikes Back~!

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat May 14, 2005 1:30 am

Yes, that should be happening very soon now.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:59 pm

I’m not sure this topic was sufficiently discussed in 2G5

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:51 am

Did the empire fall harder since?

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:02 am

It’s still falling