Secret of Mana

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:13 pm

I am overhearing rumours that there might be a secret of mana remake. Word is there's a successor to the psp coming up and it'll be made for that system.

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:18 pm

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:21 pm

Moody.

Alastair · Post by **Alastair** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:21 pm

wtf is secret of mana!?
but hey visit my cool website it's the biggest website dedicated to girls stuck in cars PEDAL PUMPING ACTION http://www.carstuckgirls.com/

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:22 pm

Or just to the point

I never played it

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:22 pm

Plz by my stuffs

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:23 pm

Nightmarish Neko.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:13 pm

Ooooooooh you just reminded me how I never finished Legend of Mana because my memory card was erased when our PS1 died

I hate you for reminding me that painful memory

.... But yeah, Mana games own.

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:23 pm

Legend of Mana was a really weird game.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:24 pm

Weird but fun

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:26 pm

And it looked like a painting, really nice looking game.

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:43 pm

Secret of Mana was one of the first Squaresoft games published in Europe, wasn't it ?
Around the same time than Mystic Quest on the SNES, and Mystic Quest (aka Seiken Densetsu 1, the very first Mana game) on the Game Boy, if I remember well.

Anyway, its multi-player feature was fun

(much more fun than the annoying computer controlled characters that would get stuck behind walls all the time, anyway

)
I loved the opening theme (and the opening screen, with the red birds flying in front of the Mana tree, which looked really amazing, by then)

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:45 pm

It was Final Fantasy Adventure on the Gameboy which was Seiken Densetsu 1 in Japan. But I've also heard about Mystic Quest so now I don't know. Urgh.

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:50 pm

As far as I know, Seiken Densetsu 1 (developed in Japan) was called Final Fantasy Adventure in the US and Mystic Quest in Europe.
And Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (developed in the US) was called Mystic Quest (or maybe Mystic Quest Adventure?) in Europe.
(I say Europe, but actually I know only about France)

... My memory is failing me...
But I'm positive there has been two games labelled Mystic Quest/Mystic Quest Adventure in Europe, one being the infamous Final Fantasy Mystic Quest on the SNES, and the other being Seiken Densetsu on the GB.

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:52 pm

I'm really not worried that I didn't know that now. Phew. Mad that you remember it though! Cheers.

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:03 pm

I'm teh old school gamer

I remember back then (before the Internet !!) it was quite difficult to get info on the various games (and their various international names). The "missing Final Fantasy" on the SNES had me puzzled for a while, for instance. Took me a while to make sure FFII was actually FF4, and FFIII, FF6 (and took me even longer to finally get my greedy little obsessive/compulsive collector's hands on the oh-so-mysterious FF5...)

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:27 pm

Mystic quest

Tree dies

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:39 pm

I remember looking up Secret of Mana online and not finding one good internet site about it. That's why I decided to make my site. I think all games should have at least one site about them, otherwise people will forget them. The internet's become such a good way to look back at those old games that you played when you were younger. We never used to have that.

Shinji Hiryu · Post by **Shinji Hiryu** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:45 pm

Alastair wrote:wtf is secret of mana!?
but hey visit my cool website it's the biggest website dedicated to girls stuck in cars PEDAL PUMPING ACTION http://www.carstuckgirls.com/

can't believe you were serious about that site

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:24 pm

i have a secret of mana ringtone!

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed May 04, 2005 5:44 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:And Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (developed in the US) was called Mystic Quest (or maybe Mystic Quest Adventure?) in Europe.

It was actually called Mystic Quest Legend

seedofmana wrote:I think all games should have at least one site about them, otherwise people will forget them. The internet's become such a good way to look back at those old games that you played when you were younger. We never used to have that.

I agree. I think we should turn SG into a FFMQ site

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:01 pm

Calbrena wrote:
Entr0pi3 wrote:And Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (developed in the US) was called Mystic Quest (or maybe Mystic Quest Adventure?) in Europe.
It was actually called Mystic Quest Legend

I should unmod you for your lack of MQ knowledge

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:14 pm

Gah, it's not lack of knowledge, just crappy memory, I swear !

(and I still own a Mystic Quest Legend copy, BTW...)

Will you pardon me if I make a few more MQ avatars ?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:19 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:Gah, it's not lack of knowledge, just crappy memory, I swear !
(and I still own a Mystic Quest Legend copy, BTW...)

Will you pardon me if I make a few more MQ avatars ?

Please please please do

I still have my copy of the game too

You need to come over here and help us finish Birdseye's quest

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:12 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:Gah, it's not lack of knowledge, just crappy memory, I swear !
(and I still own a Mystic Quest Legend copy, BTW...)

Will you pardon me if I make a few more MQ avatars ?

Do it do it do it plz, the other day I was telling Chris about how I'd love to have a Phoebe avatar

Damien wrote:You need to come over here and help us finish Birdseye's quest

If we ever get SG house 2 it's the first thing we'll have to do for the house warming party

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:19 pm

Calbrena wrote:
Entr0pi3 wrote:Gah, it's not lack of knowledge, just crappy memory, I swear !
(and I still own a Mystic Quest Legend copy, BTW...)

Will you pardon me if I make a few more MQ avatars ?
Do it do it do it plz, the other day I was telling Chris about how I'd love to have a Phoebe avatar

Damien wrote:You need to come over here and help us finish Birdseye's quest
If we ever get SG house 2 it's the first thing we'll have to do for the house warming party

Get in a smokey and some real Jim Beam and have a MQ partay

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 am

seedofmana wrote:Who remembers Squaresoft's Secret of Mana? I run the biggest website dedicated to it at www.planetnintendo.com/secretofmana so check it out if you remember playing it. What did you lot make of it?

Eh, I usually don't approve of that kind self-promotional links, but I must say the site is indeed very well documented (I had never seen the German anime ad anywhere before for instance!). A bit slow-loading, but still one of the best SoM fan-site I've seen in a long while.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:52 pm

I tend to not look at fan sites for games but if I was 15, I'd probably love it.

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:21 pm

Well, if it weren't for fan sites, I could never have made the delightful FFMQ icons I'm about to send you.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:25 pm

Entr0pi3 wrote:Well, if it weren't for fan sites, I could never have made the delightful FFMQ icons I'm about to send you.

Mystic Quest fansites are allowed

bsd · Post by **bsd** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:35 pm

Secret of Mana was a fucking awesome game. I need to play it again, but I don't actually know where it is.

Anyway, if more games were exactly like SoM... I would play more videogames. So much fun.

... But I'm not going to your site, out of principle.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:56 pm

I prefer the term "spite".

Undine · Post by **Undine** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:58 am

Alastair wrote:wtf is secret of mana!?
but hey visit my cool website it's the biggest website dedicated to girls stuck in cars PEDAL PUMPING ACTION http://www.carstuckgirls.com/

I wanna be stuck in a car now!~

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:10 pm

Undine wrote:
Alastair wrote:wtf is secret of mana!?
but hey visit my cool website it's the biggest website dedicated to girls stuck in cars PEDAL PUMPING ACTION http://www.carstuckgirls.com/
I wanna be stuck in a car now!~

That can be arranged

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:21 pm

There's no such thing as Mana magic!

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Sun May 08, 2005 9:54 am

No Mana Magic?

How should it be called, then? Elemental Summons?

...
Or do you mean that Mana = Magic, so it's redundant ?

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:30 pm

Yeah, guess it was a bit lame to promote my site, but people have really started to forget the game now. It's a shame because the people who do remember it love it. I think it's a combination of the music and the fact that three players could play at the same time with a SNES multi-tap.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:32 pm

I forgot this game because of the shitty sequels Square released,which has prompted me not to care about the series anymore.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:33 pm

I enjoyed all of the sequels somewhat

seedofmana · Post by **seedofmana** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:36 pm

Yeah, same. I found Legend of Mana a bit confusing though and tiresome but the visuals kept me going. Sword of Mana was alright too but none of the games matched Secret of Mana. It's such a shame Squaresoft never released Seiken Densetsu 3 over here, it was a proper SNES sequel to Secret of Mana that only Japan got. Argh.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:52 pm

This thread was lame but it was allowed as
- I checked out the site and it wasn't nubish
- It linked to SG
- The poster didn't seem like an idiot
- He also showed interest in posting on these forums other than to promote his fansite

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:49 pm

Legend of Mana graphics are gorgeous, and I think Legend of Mana's plot was actually pretty cool. It's just quite difficult to follow because of the non-linearity of the game, and it might feel a bit weird because the hero (the character controlled by the player) is NOT the hero (main character) of the various storylines (so maybe some players don't feel involved ?)
Yet I found the whole Jumi tragedy pretty involving. And I loved how the overall "cute" look of the game would contrast with the much darker events that could occur on the screen from time to time.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:23 pm

I liked the racism in it

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:29 pm

The racism ?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:34 pm

The English teapot with a cockney accent

That was one of the reasons the game wasn't released here, as the racist dialects of the stereotypical characters wouldn't translate well into other European languages.
Square liked using that as an excuse

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:41 pm

ROFL

Chrono Cross used much more weird accents. (and actually the text was automatically altered/translated in real time to render them - I know that from people who ripped the texts from the ROM in order to translate the game

)

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:49 pm

Yeah, Chrono Cross was the main one.
Apparently the dialogue wouldn't be as "beautiful" in German so they just decided not to release the game in Europe at all

Entr0pi3 · Post by **Entr0pi3** » Tue May 10, 2005 3:44 pm

Maybe they just couldn't decide how the characters with a German accent should speak in the German version ?

But the translation excuse is really bullshit (FF4-5-6 re-release was left in english, and nobody complained. "True" european video games fans are used to playing their games in english version)

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 10, 2005 4:12 pm

That's why Square Europe are teh idiots

SpunkyMonkey · Post by **SpunkyMonkey** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:28 am

I love SoM. I have beat it soo many times, but it never gets boring. I agree that the sequels suck. But I noticed that they are make SoM for the DS. All the info they say is that it has "been announced" but I cant wait for it to come out. The first day its for sale Im going to get it.

Does anyone else know else about the DS version?

heres the site

http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid ... 3e7824999d&

Square Gamer

Secret of Mana

Secret of Mana

Re: Secret of Mana

SoM is awesome